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Post by SayRT on Apr 13, 2013 17:01:22 GMT
zsb,
Congrats on your offer and on accepting it! What changed in your revised offer, if you do not mind me asking? Was Aramco flexible in negotiating? The purpose for asking is to spread the knowledge, as we are all sharing our experiences. Thanks in advance..
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Post by zsb on Apr 16, 2013 3:43:12 GMT
Thanks SayRT. Without going into too much specifics, we negotiated on salary by providing details on why we felt it should be increased and on which Aramco countered by increasing it little bit. However, please note that the recruiter was clear that its a possibility Aramco may withdraw the offer. I was prepared either way, as I have solid credentials, a great job and I would have respected Aramco's decision.
If anyone is planning to negotiate, please ensure that you are respectful, provide solid reasoning on why the current offer doesn't meet your requirement, and be ready to accept the reality if Aramco withdraws the offer.
I hope this helps.
zsb
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Post by SayRT on Apr 17, 2013 0:40:22 GMT
Good to hear that you negotiations were successful. I am sure Aramco is responsive and reasonable with such cases. In fact there has been similar cases-- modification to base salary. I wonder if you care to share with us whether the salary increase empacted the offered GC level, or the other way around (GC level adjustment increased the base salary)? I hope my question is not too personal. I am just trying to figure our whether the two, base salary and GC level, are negotiable, to what extent, and where the flexibility lay: at GC11, 12, 13, or higher?
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Post by zsb on Apr 17, 2013 1:34:27 GMT
SayRT,
I did not negotiate on GC and it did not impact my offered GC. Like anything else, if you feel that the offered GC does not meet your qualification and experience, you can raise it with your recruiter if its negotiatable. I hope this helps.
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Post by zsb on Apr 24, 2013 19:33:06 GMT
Feb 7: Contacted by recruiter and interview scheduled for next day
Feb 8: Interview at the Houston office
Feb 8: Verbal offer/confirmation of successful interview (right after the interview)
Feb 8: Email offer notification with additional information request (paystub, family and personal information). Offer did not include any details regarding pay, benefits or details about the job.
March 4: Finally was able to contact the recruiter. My recruiter mentioned that they are working with hundreds of applicants, thus the reason of no reply to my earlier inquiries. Apparently my offer still stands. ETA given: Two weeks to receive the written offer.
March 27: Recruiter confirmed on the phone that I should be getting the confirmed detailed offer any day.
March 28: Received email offer with benefits detail. Given 7 days to accept or reject the offer. Email advised that Fedex offer should be in the mail pretty soon.
April 1: Received Fedex hard copy package
April 9: Received revised offer
April 13: Offer, Medical and BI paperwork mailed to ASC
April 23: BI started. Estimated time given for BI is 4-6 weeks.
April 24: Relocation advisor assigned. Tentatively medical and orientation is being scheduled.
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Post by SayRT on Apr 24, 2013 22:33:56 GMT
I spoke to my relocation advisor today. The ASC advisor asked if I can move my departure date up or sooner. Anyone else received such inquiry? I was initerviewed on Feb 7th and received my offer on the 8th. I am in the middle of contingency approvals, as I understand many of us on this board are. Travel date approx. Jun/Jul time frame.
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Post by zsb on Apr 24, 2013 23:29:44 GMT
SayRT, my relocation advisor did not say anything about moving up the date. Based on the way things are moving, and if all things move in the right direction, I am not anticipating moving prior to August-September. This may also seem likely with end of June and July being Ramadan months, when things will really slow down in KSA during those two months (as mentioned in this forum). My relocation advisor advised me that BI will take approximately 4-6 weeks and I told her that's not a problem as I am in no rush  |
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Post by texas2rt on Apr 25, 2013 5:53:01 GMT
Here is my updated timeline...
Hi Y'all,
Here is my long but hopefully fruitful timeline.
Applied for a position: Jan 2012
Email from recruiter: 10/16/2012
Skype Interview: 11/24/2012
Face to Face Interview: 02/13/2013
Offer Email: 02/20/2013
FedEx Offer Received: 02/24/2013
Offer accepted: 02/23/2013
BI and Medical Questionnaire mailed to Aramco: 03/05/2013
Visa Medical done: 04/01/2013
BI Started: 04/08/2013
BI Cleared:
Kids School Cleared: 04/16/2013
Visa Medical Cleared: 04/19/2013
Visa stamped:
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Post by SayRT on Apr 25, 2013 13:59:32 GMT
i can understand and appreciate the 'no rush' reaction about this. i am personally open to either. my (if not THE) determining factor is how quickly can ASC process contingencies and obtain approvals from Dhaharan.
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Post by TrainingProf on Apr 30, 2013 23:07:22 GMT
Just a few additions
Offered Position: Program Development & Evaluation yst/Instructional Program Designer
Department: Program Development and QA
Location: Ras Tanura
Online Resume Submission to Career Site/Recruiter: November 2012
Email from Houston ASC recruiter: Jan 24, 2013
Houston Interview conducted: Saay, Feb. 16th, 2013
Email Offer Received: Mar 18, 2013
FedEx Offer, Medical and BI Received: March 19, 2013
Offer, Medical and BI paperwork mailed to ASC: March 25, 2013
Relocation Adviser assigned: April 3, 2013
Received Benefits/direct deposit/Visa app/other paperwork packet: April 4, 2013
Houston orientation and Medical: April 15, 2013
BI Started: April 13, 2013
Reference Check for BI: April 24, 2013 (First contact with BI)
Visa Medical Cleared:
Medical & BI cleared:
Visa application approved:
Departure date: ETA (per Relo) June 26, 2013
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Post by revive on May 9, 2013 14:53:19 GMT
Getting closer...!
Interview: 2/7/13 at ASC Houston
Verbal offer: right after interview
Additional Informations Requested to finalize the offer: 2/18/13
Email offer: 2/22/13
Hard copy offer (Fedex): 2/26/13
Request for offer revision: 2/26/13 (verbal), 2/28/13 (in writing)
Revised verbal offer: 3/13/13
Revised email offer: 3/19/13
Revised hard copy offer (Fedex): 3/20/13
Acceptance: 3/20/13
Submitted paperwork (incl BI & Med): 3/26/13
Assigned relocation advisor: 4/4/13
Received Benefits/direct deposit/Visa app/other paperwork packet: 4/8/13
Received the kids' school enrollment confirmation: 4/17/13
Submitted paperwork (Benefits): 4/18/13
Orientation: 4/18/13
Visa Medical checks (blood work/chest xray): 4/18/13
Received the kids' immunization notice: 4/23/13
Cleared Background: 4/30/13
Cleared Visa Medical: 5/8/13
Submitted paperwork (Visa): 5/8/13
Cleared Medical Questionnaire:
Got Visas:
Packed us up:
Received final confirmation: expected mid/late June
Flight to KSA: 8/1/13 (tentative)
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Post by tsatti on May 19, 2013 1:26:42 GMT
Here are my updated timelines, I am just waiting for visa now, hoping to have passport back from Saudi Embassy sometime next week, my flight has already been scheduled for June 27.
Interview: 2/7/13 at ASC Houston
Confirmation that offer is being process: 02/20/2013
Additional Informations Requested to finalize the offer: 2/22/13
Email offer: 02/25/13
Hard copy offer (Fedex): 02/28/13
Acceptance: 03/01/13
Submitted (BI & Medical) paperwork: 03/06/13
Relocation Advisor Assigned: 03/16/13
Received Benefits/direct deposit/Visa app/other paperwork packet:03/19/13
BI started: 03/18/13
Orientation: 04/08/2013
Medical checks (blood work/chest xray): 04/08/2013
Cleared Medical: 05/13/2013
Cleared background: 05/13/2013
Apply for Visa:05/14/2013
Got Visas:
Flight to Arabia:06/27/2013
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Post by TrainingProf on May 20, 2013 22:20:11 GMT
Just a few changes/updates:
Offered Position: Program Development & Evaluation yst/Instructional Program Designer
Department: Program Development and QA
Location: Ras Tanura
Online Resume Submission to Career Site/Recruiter: November 2012
Email from Houston ASC recruiter: Jan 24, 2013
Houston Interview conducted: Saay, Feb. 16th, 2013
Email Offer Received: Mar 18, 2013
FedEx Offer, Medical and BI Received: March 19, 2013
Offer, Medical and BI paperwork mailed to ASC: March 25, 2013
Relocation Adviser assigned: April 3, 2013
Received Benefits/direct deposit/Visa app/other paperwork packet: April 4, 2013
Houston orientation and Medical: April 15, 2013
BI Started: April 13, 2013
Reference Check for BI: April 24, 2013 (First contact with BI)
Visa Medical Cleared: May 1, 2013
Medical & BI cleared: Sent to Saudi Aramco May 15, 2013
Visa application submitted: May 17, 2013
Visa application approved:
Departure date: NEW ETD (per Relo) June 18, 2013
I found out that arrival dates matter. The 20th is the payroll cut off. Anything after that will roll to the next month which is why my relo adviser requested a June 18th date (very nice of her). Otherwise my 1st paycheck would not be until August :cry: In talking to some folks and reading other posts above, it appears that the relo folks are trying to get people in country a little early (before Ramadan) if they can swing it.
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Post by mac on May 20, 2013 22:42:44 GMT
Hi revive
I am in early stages and reviewing the offer before accepting. I am not clear on 1 step in your timeline (copied below); please clarify. Who initiate the kid's school enrollment and how does the process work?
Received the kids' school enrollment confirmation: 4/17/13
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revive
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Post by revive on May 20, 2013 22:55:30 GMT
Hi Mac,
You will submit dependents information as part of the initial paperwork, including school transcripts, immunization records, etc. Then your relo advisor will initiate school registration with Saudi Aramco school.
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