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Post by vpainter on Jul 12, 2014 7:18:35 GMT
Your offer could come in under what your pay stubs say you make, at that point resubmit them and a request for an increase. The offer could come in equal to your current pay, you determine if that is good for you. Many times the take home pay comes out more because of tax situations, etc. or they have been known to offer more than you are currently paid.
All these are currently what is happening in Aramco offers, no one can say where you will be in those offers.
The GC has mostly to do with the le of the position, some le GC's also associate years of experience to the le. Aramco has assigned a GC to every position le within the company. A GC 12 could have people with 10 years experience and people with 20 years experience, they could be in different areas of the company but the le they have has a GC 12 assigned to it.
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Post by Bluewire on Jul 12, 2014 12:13:02 GMT
vpainterMany thanks for the prompt reply. How many gc grades are there? What is the highest and as part of a counter offer can you ask for a higher grade? Will that allow for a higher salary or are there bands within the salary ? And what happens if you already have submitted pay stubs which show you are paid net of tax anyway? Does aramco offer a sign on bonus or will they compensate you if you are going to forgo annual bonus because you are joining them ? Thanks in advance
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Post by bamaster on Jul 12, 2014 17:22:29 GMT
GCs have salary bands. A higher grade isn't necessarily more money. Grades are tied to the le. Salary band specifics may not be known... if they are, they are not discussed in open forum. I submitted my pay slip twice. Many people don't negotiate at all. I had two counters. If you choose to negotiate, your process will be unique to you. Only thing I can recommend is that if your offer is less than your current base, resubmit your pay slip with your written counter.
I have not heard of anyone getting a signing offer. Maybe at the executive level, I don't know. The thing to remember is to look at the offer in terms of discretionary income. There are many things that contribute to your income such as salary premium, annual bonuses, C&S (commodities and services) difference. repatriation, generous tax protections, and other perks like housing benefits, school assistance, and insurance covee.
Bluewire, you're asking very common questions which have been answered many times before. Do yourself a favor and use the search on the site. There's a wealth of information on this site.
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Post by anctjt on Jul 14, 2014 3:36:57 GMT
Thought I would share my timeline for Contracts Representative position:
May 29 - Phone call with headhunter
June 2 - Brief call from Aramco
June 10 - Interview in Houston
June 12 - Email notice of offer
June 16 - Formal offer received
June 23 - Revised offer received
June 24 - Offer accepted
July 2 - Submitted all paperwork
July 8 - BI/Medical cleared, school acceptance
July 16 - Remote visa medical exam scheduled
TBA - Visa medical cleared
TBA - Visa le received
TBA - Visa approved
September 12 - Tentative relocation date
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Post by Northernlights on Jul 14, 2014 9:36:50 GMT
Timeline of a Petroleum Engineer:
To contribute: Total waiting time from offer to departure - 16 months (65 weeks) ....Hurrah :)
Patience is a key.
Apply on line: 06-Jan-2013
Interview Request from AOC London (email): 20-Jan-2013
Paystubs & Application form Submitted: 26-Jan-2013
Interview (London): 24-April-2013
Offer received (email): 12-June-2013
Offer received (mail): 14-June-2013
Offer sent back to review: 16-June-2013
Offer review rejected (email): 18-June-2013
Offer Accepted: 19-June-2013
BI : 24-June-2013
Medical : 16-July-2013
Remote Pre-Departure Orientation: 24-July- 2013
Visa Block (waiting): Aug-13
Visa Block (waiting): Sep-13
Visa Block (waiting): Oct-13
Revised Offer received (mail): 4-Oct-2013
Visa Block (waiting): Nov-13
Visa Block (waiting): Dec-13
Visa Block (waiting): Jan-14
1st Repeat Medical London: 15-Jan-2014
Visa Block (waiting): Feb-14
Visa Block (waiting): Mar-14
Visa Block (waiting): Apr-14
2nd Repeat Medical London: 17-Apr-2014
Visa Block Arrived: 5-June-14
Passports Submitted: 16-June-2014
Passports Stamped w/ Visa: 16-June-2014
Departure Date: September 17th (I have the ticket already)
Good luck to all of you waiting for visa block.
Cheers:)
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Post by Bluewire on Jul 14, 2014 18:46:07 GMT
Thanks ba master..trawling through the site to see ....much obliged..
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Post by lin1971 on Jul 29, 2014 0:04:24 GMT
Hi everyone:
Here is my timeline for a business system yst position. ASC in Houston has been handling my application.
Apply on line: April 30, 2014
Interview Request (email): May 7, 2014
Interview (Houston) and initial orientation: May 13, 2014
Congratulatory e-mail received: May 20, 2014
Offer received (email): June 25, 2014
Counter offer sent (email): June 30, 2014
Revised offer received (email): July 14, 2014
Revised offer received (FedEx): July 15, 2014
Offer Accepted: July 15, 2014
Relocation Advisor assigned : July 15, 2014
BI/Medical Docs/ Passports submitted via FedEx: July 21, 2014
BI/Pre-Medical Cleared: July 24, 2014
Visa le confirmation- Was told by relo advisor on July 24, 2014 that no visa le until mid to late Aug of 2014.
Visa medicals: Tentative scheduled for Aug 12, 2014 in Houston
Visa Medical Cleared: TBD
Passports Stamped w/ Visa estimation: TBD
ETA from Relo Advisor: Oct 17, 2014
Actual Departure Date: TBD
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Post by MissingSki on Jul 29, 2014 15:46:24 GMT
Northernlights,
Congrats! Finally you finished the ordeal! sent you a PM.
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Post by Shammal on Jul 30, 2014 2:12:26 GMT
lin1971,
Did you mean that your background and medical evaluations were completed within 3 days of mailing them, or that ASC confirmed that the packets were complete and the evaluation commenced within 3 days of mailing the packets in?
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Post by lin1971 on Jul 30, 2014 3:48:30 GMT
Hi Shammal,
Yes, my background and pre medical eval were completed within 3 days. According to my relo, that was the fastest she has ever seen since she started working for ASC. But I thought BI and pre med eval shouldn't take too long anyway. I am not sure. It's just my timeline and I guess everyone is different.
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Post by ckalamaras on Aug 1, 2014 11:55:30 GMT
Hi all, To contribute, here is my timeline for a Lab Scientist position. AOC London has been handling my application. Interview at AOC London: 27/02/2014 Skype Interview: 08/04/2014 Offer received: 02/07/2014 Offer acceptance: 08/07/2014 Revised offer received: 15/07/2014 Transfer to relocation advisor: 16/07/2014 Return all signed documents to AOC: 17/07/2014 Offer pack received: 17/07/2014 Background investigation started: 14/07/2014 Return offer pack: 21/07/2014 Medical visa examination: 23/07/2014 Pre-departure orientation: 14/08/2014 Contingencies cleared (up to 45 days): mid Aug 2014 (estimated) Visa block/VIL issued:  Visa stamp (up to 7 working days after visa block): Resignation from current job: late Aug 2014 (estimated) End of notice period: late Sep 2014 (estimated) Departure for KSA: Oct 2014 (estimated) Please let me know if anyone has similar timeline. Any updates regarding the visa block release date? Should I expect to be included to the next visa block (or it is too optimistic? :? )? Any idea when I will be assigned a housing? The position is for the R&D department in Dhahran so I hope Dhahran campus will be optimum! Fingers crossed. :roll: |
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Post by vpainter on Aug 2, 2014 20:12:01 GMT
Housing is usually assigned the week of your arrival.
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Post by TiffanyRena on Aug 4, 2014 13:54:47 GMT
o All,
In my efforts to contribute here's my timeline for HR position...
Call from headhunter - Nov 2013
Interview (Houston) - Feb 2014
Offer extended/accepted - Mar 2014
Pre Medical paperwork mailed- Apr 2014
Orientation and Visa Medical completed (Houston) - June 30, 2014
Estimated Departure: Sept 2014
I've been told there are roughly 60 to 70 ppl currently waiting for Houston departure and Aramco is hoping the next 2 visa blocks will clear the que. Exactly when those visa blocks are expected??? Who knows...
I was informed there was a huge que last year (roughly 100 people) from Houston which resulted in some people waiting up to 18 months to relocate. I hope this time doesn't get as bad.
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Post by ITGuru on Aug 15, 2014 15:07:46 GMT
-------------My Timeline------------- - Location - London, AOC
- Headhunt Call - 30 April 2014
- Call from Aramco - 15 May 2014
- Interview - 3 June 2014
- Offer received - 11 July 2014
- Offer accepted - 14 July 2014
- Background Investigation started - 15 July 2014
- Relocation Adviser Assigned - 17 July 2014
- Medical Tests - 22 July 2014
- Medical cleared - 24 July 2014
- Degree confirmation university - 30 July 2014
- Background Investigation finished - 4 August 2014
- SAMSO (Medical) and BI cleared confirmation - 12 August 2014
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Post by mohbakry on Aug 16, 2014 13:43:12 GMT
o fellas,
I was wondering if receiving Visa le would mean that all other contingencies (BI,Medical, School, Housing, etc) are clear?
I was informed by ASC, TX. that my visa le was received and was asked to mail my passport, so any other surprises expected down the road?
My kids are starting schools here in 2 weeks and I should be paying large bucks by that time, so I could really use some help to make a decision.
Unfortunately I can't get any response from my RA. and I understand how busy they are just from the load I can sense reading through the forum.
Thanks in advance
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