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Post by azraeil on Nov 14, 2013 9:33:42 GMT
Hero55,
Offers on Pound Sterling payroll will not change. They may make another round of offers for conversion for those who are in the pipeline. New hires post November 1 (for those who have not received their offer letter) will be enrolled in either the Global Payroll or another one they will be rolling out soon.
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Post by bsr2go on Dec 3, 2013 0:36:51 GMT
OK. I am going to get an offer on Global Payroll. I am from a Asian country but Canadian Permananet Resident . I am hoping to get a offer which is up to my expectations ( Not too low based on my Nationality  ). I also hope Global Payroll has some extra benefits . Let us hope for best |
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Post by azraeil on Dec 3, 2013 4:53:43 GMT
bsr2go,
I think I wrote the Global Payroll tier system in another thread but here it goes again
1. Canadian/British/Australian/New Zealand/Western Europe/North Asia (Japan, Taiwan & South Korean) and Singapore Citizens (excluding permanent residents) will be offered Global Payroll on Tier 1 status.
2. South American/Latin American/Eastern Europe Citizens (excluding permanent residents) will be offered Global Payroll on Tier 2 status
3. Any other parts of the world will not be offered Global Payroll unless the potential candidate is Core-Skilled personnel (Geoscience, Petroleum Engineer, Drilling Engineer & R&D) will be offered Global Payroll on Tier 3 status
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Post by bsr2go on Dec 5, 2013 1:21:59 GMT
Azraeil,
Yes. You were correct. I got offer on Global Payroll Tier system . As offer is very low , I assume I was placed on Tier 3 ( Based on my Nationality from a Asian Country ). I am really confused now as It is way below my expectations. I will try to negotiate but I doubt something can be done as Offer is based on Nationality & not on Permananent Residency.
Can Aramco change Global Payroll Tier on a Special Case ?
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Post by azraeil on Dec 5, 2013 7:35:50 GMT
bsr2go,
You can always try. 3300 of us were offered to convert but most Asians/Africans/Latin & South Americans and Eastern Europeans on the Sterling Payroll or Canadian/Australian PR who are Asians are probably going to reject the conversion. New hires though won't have the option.
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Post by Hero55 on Dec 11, 2013 2:11:17 GMT
Hi azraeil,
I signed my gbp offer last sep and still waiting for visa block. Now I am worry are they going to downgrade my offer ?. I am from other arab and don't feel comfortable with such nationalism business only seen in GCC country !!!
Thanks
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Post by azraeil on Dec 11, 2013 4:53:25 GMT
Hero55,
If you received an offer in GBP Payroll, they will not change the offer to the new Global Payroll and downgrade your offer. You are "safe". New offers post November 2013 will be on the Global Payroll with the Tier system based on nationalities.
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Post by Hero55 on Dec 11, 2013 11:53:04 GMT
Hi azerial,
Thanks very much for your clarification. Though this new approach is really ugly to scale people based on nationality.
Thanks
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Post by azraeil on Dec 12, 2013 4:19:52 GMT
For those who received their offer in Canadian/Sterling Payroll but are not citizens (PR) of the countries (Canada/UK), Please be aware that if you asked for a revised offer, the new offer will come in on Global Payroll and your nationality will be used to place you in the respective Overbase Tiers. This happened to a friend yesterday.
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Post by Hero55 on Dec 12, 2013 7:49:09 GMT
Hi azrail,
I fully agree with you as I have raised a negotiations request long time ago and no reply. Eventually, recruiter recommend me to sign the offer so that we can start the long process and we will still have time for negotiations. Now I am still waiting for visa block and all other contingency were cleared out but visa block. Though I clearly remind him about negotiations he didn't reply. Now it looks like that if they will rise the salary they will definitely change it from GBP
The question here, is it possible to have high salary under global payroll than GBP ? And if so what I am going to lose ? Is it downgrade from GBP to global ? I am really got confused and sometimes think to turn down the whole story with ARAMCO as I don't use to work with nationalism atmosphere. I am currently workiny with multi national atmosphere and global international contract for all nationality except for home country people.
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Post by Uman on Dec 12, 2013 15:35:03 GMT
Hero55,
Dont you have the option to stay on GBP Payroll? I think you do. Also....the offer should be at at around an exchange rate of 1.65 which is pretty good considering. same amount but in US dollars sent to a bank/s anywhere in the world.
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Post by Hero55 on Dec 13, 2013 8:01:22 GMT
Hi Uman,
It will look really so stupid if I meant the same value in USD instead of GBP. What I meant is the real value of the salary and benefits. Let assume that they offer me 1000GBP and I am trying to make them rise my salary so that it will be 2000GBP for example but maybe paid in USD as per global payroll. Bottom line if they increase my salary and benefits but new payroll is better or better to stay in gbp payroll. If the later is better then what is real advantage of GBP in front of global. Please I don't want to hear exchange rate and currency different cuz this is not make sense for me if we look at the final net value. We can always make the conversion to compare
Thanks
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Post by GroveWanderer on Dec 14, 2013 8:04:26 GMT
Just to clear up what appears to be perhaps a misconception as regards the global payroll, it does not introduce the idea of differentiating between people according to nationality. The company has historically maintained a policy of offering different pay and conditions based on nationality and the old policy had a lot more differences between varying nationalities than the new one does.
The global payroll, if anything is actually reducing the amount and degree of differentiation. Also there were some recent policy changes in terms of conditions, where things like housing, EAP eligibility etc have now been more or less "standardized." And although I don't have the actual figures to prove it, based on the presentations I've been to and the published material I've seen, it appears that differences in pay may also be less with the introduction of the global payroll.
For instance, just the fact that they are reducing the number of different payrolls and therefore IR policy manuals, shows that the new approach is tending to minimize the differences rather than accentuate them (though obviously, difference still remain).
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Post by azraeil on Dec 14, 2013 18:20:58 GMT
Uman,
He has not joined yet and any change from the original offer will be on the Global Payroll. The Pound Sterling payroll is now a legacy payroll and is no longer being offered. If an offer in GBP (prior to November 2013) has to be revised, there is no longer a GBP Payroll to revise it to, so the applicant will receive a revised offer in Global Payroll. Once the applicant is offered the Global Payroll, he will then be placed on the relevant tiers based on his country of citizenship.
At the end of the day, the company has every right to implement whatever policies they like. There are always other opportunities especially in the Oil & Gas industry and if you are a Geologist, Geophysicist, Reservoir Engineers, Drilling Engineers, companies all over the world are falling head over heels trying to hire you away from Aramco. Traffic goes both ways.
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Post by Buster on Dec 14, 2013 19:15:24 GMT
There are two main objectives of the Global Payroll
1. To minimise the amount of currencies and to tie in with USD accounting
2. To attract and to retain people (company's words)
What that means for nationality and citizenship I'm not sure
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). I also hope Global Payroll has some extra benefits . Let us hope for best
