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Post by frankieb on May 5, 2014 12:08:02 GMT
Hi everyone,
We're going a little bit bonkers here now because our visa is taking so long to sort out. First of all, we tried to enter KSA with our "yellow piece of paper" having been told it was out "visa". We were skeptical but tried it anyway, only to be told that no, it wasn't sufficient - so we turned back to Bahrain only to be told that we couldn't enter because our visa had been canceled on the way out (10 minutes ago!). And so then we had to take a trip to Doha and back to renew our Bahrain visas.. and so here we are, now applying for our visa again via VFS Tasheel, the only agency that KSA will work with for visa processing now. Upon trying to set up an appointment with them, I see that they are requesting a medical report and police report. This is news to me - had no idea these things were necessary and nor did my husband apparently.. and so my question to you all is this:
has anyone here applied for their visa with VFS Tasheel, and how long does it take to get these two documents together? I'm assuming I contact a UK police station and ask for a report on myself? Does it have to be verified somehow and be done a certain way? And I'm also assuming I go to a doctor here in Bahrain to get a medical report done - or do I have to contact my UK doctor for this? I would google it rather than post here but I've found SO many different details in so many places I'm just overwhelmed at this point - makes more sense to ask someone who has actually been through this process before.
Can anyone help? It's myself and my two children, none of whom have criminal records or would fail medicals! Any advice on how to do this would be so appreciated.. my kids are still out of school with a tutor because of all these delays. We really had no idea it would be this complicated.
Huge thanks to anyone who can help! (And if I've left out any details that would somehow help you to know, please ask..)
Frankie
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Post by frankieb on May 5, 2014 12:20:02 GMT
*sorry, had to reply in order to check box "Notify me when a reply is posted".. :roll:
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Post by infquery on May 5, 2014 13:44:02 GMT
o Frankieb
Sorry I'm completely lost but, did your relocation advisor send you and your family to KSA without your visa stamped in your passport??? How were your arrangements done without your visa? There was an Aramco representative at Damman airport waiting for you to give you your temporary ID and all that? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one not getting this, can you elaborate just a little?
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Post by frankieb on May 5, 2014 17:43:32 GMT
We never had a relocation advisor. My husband flew us out here to Bahrain (where he lives) at the beginning of the Easter break, with the assurance that our visas would be completed in time for the beginning of school. We never had a relocation advisor, and Josh was misinformed about the infamous "yellow piece of paper"..
We flew in to Bahrain and applied from here. We were told it would be fine?
Nope, nobody because we flew into Bahrain. Our visa application was already underway when we arrived here, and we're now poised to do the last part - my question was to anyone that had applied from Bahrain and gone through AFS Tasheel visa handling service - I really need to know what sort of medical a wife needs in order to be granted family visa (is it simply the same as my husbands? where do we go to get it done? etc. I've tried asking human resources but they aren't able to help since they're not familiar with doing it this way.) We also want to know how to get a police report and whether there are any special conditions that we don't know about with regard to that. I'm guessing the British embassy might know?
If anyone else here can shed light on anything for me I would be very grateful!
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Post by frankieb on May 5, 2014 17:49:08 GMT
I'm sorry, i think the main thing i left out was that we were intentionally in Bahrain in the beginning, applying for our Saudi visa from here. Then we had that epic fail at the border where we were refused entry to both Saudi and Bahrain and were temporarily in No Man's Land on the causeway.. after that we renewed our Bahrain visas by flying to Doha and back into Bahrain again. And now here we sit, wondering how to proceed since HR aren't really able to help us, which is unfortunate. Anyway, hope that paints a clearer picture.. we're hanging in there, but might eventually go up the wall
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cgyguy
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Post by cgyguy on May 5, 2014 18:28:23 GMT
Frankie,
I've been part of this forum for 6 months (which is not much compared to others) but is first time I read a situation like yours.
Are you guys direct employees for Aramco or contractor? Did you fly to Bharain on your own means (or paid by Aramco)?
Whomever gave you the yellow papers should be able to help out, right?
I hope you guys can find the light at the end of the tunnel!
Sorry I can't help...
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Post by David_and_Nita on May 5, 2014 20:21:42 GMT
Prolly want to start from the beginning. I've never heard of anyone coming through without a real visa in their passport and Aramco arranges the visas.
Is your husband an Aramco employee?
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Post by infquery on May 5, 2014 21:20:27 GMT
I hope somebody can help you soon, but my understanding (limited as it is) is that Aramco, even if you live as close as Bahrain, needs to make the arrangements for you to enter to KSA, you don't do such thing personally. My wife got her medical here in london with me and the results just came a few weeks ago, there are people here in the forum waiting for the visa for long time.
Did your husband arrive into KSA in bachelor status? There is a chance you might not enter the kingdom until he completes his probation. I'm just shooting the air, I really really don't understand your case, is very unusual, and there are a lot of unusuals in this forum.
Reading a bunch I'd find out that going there (KSA) for a normal human is almost impossible, 'cause KSA don't have the "tourist" figure in their inmigration arements, as the Emirates does. A close friend who is already there told me he was able to take there his mom, but not his sister and brother in law, so they met in Bahrain.
I'm praying for someone that understands comes and help you fast
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Post by frankieb on May 6, 2014 7:22:14 GMT
Hi guys - yes, we've managed to grasp at this point that our situation is unusual, given that nobody knows exactly what to do with us! The British Embassy in Bahrain had me call the British Embassy in Riyadh who had me call the Saudi Embassy in Bahrain.. . who aren't answering their phone today, apparently.
Yes, my husband works for Aramco as a direct hire, as of January. We begun our visa application from the UK, but my husband chose to have us come and live with him in Bahrain (he's a commuter) while we sorted out the visa process and we've been here since the beginning of the Easter Break.
We weren't told about police reports and medical reports etc. - although of course it makes sense that I would need all of that done, as would any person applying for a visa to another country - but we thought that once we got the yellow paper from MoFA, that was all we needed. Or rather - my husband was told that that was all we needed.. which is true in a sense, since without that you can't apply for a visa. It's the "applying for a visa" part that we didn't anticipate! If that makes any sense.
And so basically, we are a mum and two kids who need to get all this over with as soon as possible and get to Rakah so that my kids can get back into school. As of this week we're working with a tutor to keep them on track, but clearly this isn't what we'd planned.
If anyone knows anybody that has recently applied for a Saudi visa via VFS Tasheel (the one agency that you can get a visa with now, KSA only accepts applications from them) I would be hugely grateful for any advice on police reports and medicals. For example, I don't know if I need a full background check as a wife joining a husband in Saudi (not that i wouldn't pass it, but it looks like it takes over a month!) or something else called a "subject access check".
I think the medical side of things we have covered and know where to do that... it's the police report I'm a little stumped by...
trying to go back and answer some of your questions.. no, my husband has family status and already has a villa at Rakah that he would like to put us in..
I wish that HR at Aramco could help us, but apparently they cannot. I don't understand that, but apparently that is the case - they don't really know what we should do as they don't deal with people applying from Bahrain.
I guess it's a good thing that my kids still think they're just on an extra-long vacation with some tutoring thrown in for good measure.. but whether we can keep this up for another month I really don't know! And the joke is that our return flight is on June 27th to the UK for the summer... will it all be done by then?
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Post by erdna_oaoj on May 6, 2014 8:14:21 GMT
I really hope you can solve that situation.. Usually Aramco employes apply for family visa in the kingdom and it can take up to 3 months, that's the usual procedure maybe that's why HR can't assist you....
Best of luck.
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Post by Maursh on May 6, 2014 11:06:15 GMT
How was your husband recruited? Where was he living, where were you living? How was your husband's visa to KSA obtained? I assume he hasone since he is commuting to work.
I suggest you go back to the recruitment personnel and ask who your relocation coordinater is. I think you will actually find it easier to sort out from the Uk than from Bahrain, but I don't know. If nothing else, there will be other stuff which has been missed other than the visa (Aramco ID's certain vaccinations for schools, application for iqamas etc). For whatever reason you are out of a process and you need to step back in to it, somehow.
The medical is quite specific, it needs to clear you of commutable diseases, chest xrays for TB etc. I don't think that we were asked for police clearance from the UK. And no, we didn't have to wait until husband was in kingdom before the family came.
For information or interest, when you first arrive in Kingdom, you generally cannot do so over the causeway. You visa will specify your method of arrival and it is generally stated as by air.
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Post by frankieb on May 6, 2014 13:20:08 GMT
Aramco hire: he was recruited as a contractor-turned-Aramcon, and he was living in Bahrain at the time (this Jan). We were living in the UK up until the end of March, when we flew here to Bahrain.
Relocation coordinator: yes, I don't know why we don't have a relocation coordinator. And yes, probably would have been easier to sort out from the UK but now we're here, we're going to have to do it this way. We've got the vaccinations covered since we've been working with the school on all that, but as for the iqama - no idea about that! I guess we'll sort that out once we get there?
We did have some good news today - no police report required. I got this information directly from the visa processing agency and so I can only hope that's true. You've said that you didn't have to get one so I'm hoping it is.
Medical:
yes, and interestingly I had a TB test about a week ago as I had to go to the ER with pneumonia, so we know I don't have that - yay. And I've found a medical centre called KIMS in Bahrain that will do my medical for 45 BD.. two days to process.
Arrival: Now this is something I haven't heard before. I've emailed the agency to check on this - hope there's something that can be done about that since it would truly suck to have to fly in if we live 30 minutes from the causeway border. ughh.
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Post by infquery on May 6, 2014 15:08:43 GMT
About this one I agree with Maursh, your entry visa is going to specify you are entering by air as is Damman the point for Aramco newcomers to arrive (first time you come you can't leave until you have an iqama, not even to Bahrain, not by land at all), at least the agency can sort out differently (let's hope for that)
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Post by David_and_Nita on May 6, 2014 21:41:08 GMT
Does he work for Aramco and has he relocated from Bahrain to KSA? If so, he can get you a visa not this way but by simply stepping down to Personnel, handing over passport and proof of relationship, walking with the Personnel rep down to the Al-Fifa counter, and having Al-Fifa process your visa. It does not take long. www.alfifa.com/ is the name of the company who processes all of the Aramco employee family member / visitor visas. I do not believe that it is possible for a family member (him) to sponsor another family member (you) to enter KSA unless he already has established his residence and obtained his Iqama.
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Maursh
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Post by Maursh on May 9, 2014 5:10:41 GMT
It sounds like your situation would not be dissimilar to a bachelor converting to family status. Can any bachelors advise on how their family was helped with the transition? Particularly if the conversion was after a few years.
You will need a point of contact to help and there will be an arm of AOC or similar that deals with this - you just need to find the right division.
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