eabz
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Post by eabz on Jul 16, 2023 23:16:32 GMT
After reading a lot of comments here on lack of career progression, I made a comment in another post and someone appeared to disagree with me. From all the comments here today, it appears the general consensus is that Aramco is not a place for career development for expats, atleast not for the majority. Someonse also told me that some departments might be better than others. You have to remember that membership here is a tiny percentage of a massive company, and that active membership is mostly new/potential hire. It will be nice to read from anyone here who has experienced career progression as an expat. I understand people’s experience will vary |
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jrs
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Post by jrs on Jul 17, 2023 5:00:44 GMT
It’s typically 5 years or more to move up a GC, which means more money but may or may not mean additional responsibilities or leadership opportunities.
Years of service carries more weight than individual performance when moving up grade codes at Aramco for expats, most often.
There are a few expats that work their way into management roles, usually group leaders or division heads but they are a rarity.
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arcticengineer
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Post by arcticengineer on Jul 17, 2023 17:09:06 GMT
It’s typically 5 years or more to move up a GC, which means more money but may or may not mean additional responsibilities or leadership opportunities. Years of service carries more weight than individual performance when moving up grade codes at Aramco for expats, most often. There are a few expats that work their way into management roles, usually group leaders or division heads but they are a rarity. There is no typical, it is minimum of 5 years, more likely 7+ and I know some after 9 years who have not moved up a GC. What you should expect is no career advancement, no move to other offices and minimal annual increases. That is why you better be happy with the offer you receive and don't complain when company policies for training and advancement have an invisible section that reads this does not apply to expats. |
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eabz
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Post by eabz on Jul 19, 2023 16:28:39 GMT
It’s scary reading all these no career progression comments
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tamsin
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Post by tamsin on Jul 19, 2023 18:45:53 GMT
It’s scary reading all these no career progression comments You can decline the offer, it’s not for everyone. |
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Post by BlueStaff on Jul 19, 2023 19:50:01 GMT
It’s scary reading all these no career progression comments Take with a pinch of salt sometimes what you read about Aramco. I stated previously - so far as I know every single person who started at the same time as me has had a promotion since joining. So whether you choose to believe persons actually in kingdom working with Aramco or not is your choice. There are also a lot of disgruntled ex-Aramcons around who for whatever reason have a chip on their shoulder over it and love to stir things or give bad reports online. Time to let this thread die I think. |
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eabz
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Post by eabz on Jul 19, 2023 22:55:32 GMT
Thanks. It’s true that individual’s experience will defer
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jrs
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Post by jrs on Jul 20, 2023 5:56:35 GMT
Agreed - I have no regrets. I like the unique lifestyle, the travel benefits, extremely short work commutes and of course most importantly the additional money & savings vs working in USA. However, I’m almost 53 with 30 years of experience, so I’m on downslope of my career. Not looking to climb the corp ladder or major development/training maybe just one GC before leaving in 7 years. We have been here almost a year now and have made lots of friends. The work itself is fine but not over stimulating.
If you come here under 40 as a real go getter and want a challenging & rewarding career with leadership opportunities, you maybe disappointed but the other stuff is good.
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arcticengineer
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Post by arcticengineer on Jul 22, 2023 6:12:07 GMT
The experience of Aramcon's living in kingdom varies from department to department and camp to camp. I know some departments where expats can expect training opportunities, reviews commensurate with their annual performance and career advancement. However, that is not the experience of all expats in all departments. Like any company, there are pros and cons. People should make their decisions knowing the pros and the cons. My honest advice is do not expect career advancement as an expat. It does happen for some, but not all and possible not even the majority. Not bitter gs, just one of the challenges and frustrations for many expats. For me the overall positives have outweighed the negatives.
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