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Post by coyotep on Jul 5, 2023 17:39:35 GMT
I received an offer and I have 13+ years of experience. I put in a counter offer recently and have not yet heard back. I am wrestling with the idea of moving my family and giving up potential career advancement opportunities where I currently am. Has anyone been going through the same thought process or already went through it and joined Aramco? I am curious to know your perspectives. I understand everyone has their own situation, etc, but keen on understanding how a potential 75% increase in overall cash savings annually is good compensation for "sacrificing" your career goals? i.e is financial benefit worth it? Is the technical growth strong at aramco? Appreciate your perspectives.
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Post by jrs on Jul 5, 2023 18:21:28 GMT
You usually don’t come to Aramco for career growth or advancement but for financial benefit and lifestyle choice.
If you’re seeking a manager/leader role or growing your skill set/training, then most expat roles don’t lend toward that. If you’re under 40 and/or with less than 15 years of professional experience and still a go getter and wanting to climb the corporate ladder, then I advise against Aramco at this point in your career for most Aramco roles. You will likely get frustrated and not be happy although making good money.
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Post by coyotep on Jul 5, 2023 18:43:12 GMT
I am looking at role in Loss Prevention. I was told they provide you technical trainings and growth, but not sure if I believe it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2023 11:04:10 GMT
Aramco just isn't a place to grow ones career. If you're not in your mid-40s or older you'll likely get frustrated with the lack of advancement and unfairness in pay rises / promotions etc. This doesn't mean you can't save a lot of $$$, but it will have a shelf-life, so best to have a clear $$$ exit target before you arrive.
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Post by coyotep on Jul 6, 2023 18:15:16 GMT
Do you know if it's feasible to leave Aramco and come back to the states? Worried that I might be giving up something good and not be able to recover it if I decide to leave Aramco years later. Essentially fear of missing out.
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Post by jrs on Jul 7, 2023 8:21:19 GMT
Many expats don’t retire from Aramco and return to their home country and resume fruitful careers, including the US.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2023 20:04:01 GMT
Do you know if it's feasible to leave Aramco and come back to the states? Worried that I might be giving up something good and not be able to recover it if I decide to leave Aramco years later. Essentially fear of missing out. It’s possible, my advice would be to not stay here too long as you will become “adjusted” and “insutionalised” to Aramco working methods, and that isn’t conducive with how things are done back home. The adjustment will be hard. Vast majority of expats here stay for years and retire, or quit within a few months. Good luck with your decision. |
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Post by eabz on Jul 7, 2023 21:35:21 GMT
After reading a lot of comments here on lack of career progression, I made a comment in another post and someone appeared to disagree with me. From all the comments here today, it appears the general consensus is that Aramco is not a place for career development for expats, atleast not for the majority. Someonse also told me that some departments might be better than others.
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Post by eabz on Jul 7, 2023 21:35:48 GMT
I received an offer and I have 13+ years of experience. I put in a counter offer recently and have not yet heard back. I am wrestling with the idea of moving my family and giving up potential career advancement opportunities where I currently am. Has anyone been going through the same thought process or already went through it and joined Aramco? I am curious to know your perspectives. I understand everyone has their own situation, etc, but keen on understanding how a potential 75% increase in overall cash savings annually is good compensation for "sacrificing" your career goals? i.e is financial benefit worth it? Is the technical growth strong at aramco? Appreciate your perspectives. If you dont mind sharing, what role were you offered? |
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Post by tamsin on Jul 7, 2023 21:48:06 GMT
After reading a lot of comments here on lack of career progression, I made a comment in another post and someone appeared to disagree with me. From all the comments here today, it appears the general consensus is that Aramco is not a place for career development for expats, atleast not for the majority. Someonse also told me that some departments might be better than others. You have to remember that membership here is a tiny percentage of a massive company, and that active membership is mostly new/potential hire. |
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Post by coyotep on Jul 8, 2023 0:25:46 GMT
I received an offer and I have 13+ years of experience. I put in a counter offer recently and have not yet heard back. I am wrestling with the idea of moving my family and giving up potential career advancement opportunities where I currently am. Has anyone been going through the same thought process or already went through it and joined Aramco? I am curious to know your perspectives. I understand everyone has their own situation, etc, but keen on understanding how a potential 75% increase in overall cash savings annually is good compensation for "sacrificing" your career goals? i.e is financial benefit worth it? Is the technical growth strong at aramco? Appreciate your perspectives. If you dont mind sharing, what role were you offered? I was offered a Loss Prevention Engineer position in Jeddah |
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Post by jrs on Jul 11, 2023 18:40:08 GMT
Given that oil prices are on the decline with Russia taking away market share from Saudi, it is more likely that Aramco might not keep expats around for longer term but rather prefer replacing them with cheaper locals. Hence it is more likely that you will be returning to US sooner than later and will regret giving up career advancement No so sure about your assessment. Oil would have to drop below $40 and remain there before I believe Aramco would make deep cuts. Don’t see that happening anytime in the near or distance future. |
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Post by darthmole on Jul 12, 2023 6:51:11 GMT
Its all relative and depends on where you are, I am from the UK with similar years of experience and a career progression guaranteed but little uptick in pay for me waiting for a promotion will give me an extra $600/mo. compared to moving to Aramco with close to double the pay and zero taxes...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 12:45:01 GMT
Its all relative and depends on where you are, I am from the UK with similar years of experience and a career progression guaranteed but little uptick in pay for me waiting for a promotion will give me an extra $600/mo. compared to moving to Aramco with close to double the pay and zero taxes... You won’t get double the pay at aramco…25-40% is the normal range. If you do manage a 100% raise let me know!! |
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Post by arcticengineer on Jul 16, 2023 18:11:48 GMT
I am looking at role in Loss Prevention. I was told they provide you technical trainings and growth, but not sure if I believe it. They do not provide meaningful training or growth for expats. Hiring on for Aramco is best done for you last 5-10 years of your career where lack of training and growth in theory doesn't matter, but it is still frustrating. |
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