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Post by teeboy12 on Nov 19, 2015 18:51:15 GMT
o, I have gone through some posts on the forum that seems to relate to what I am about asking. However, those posts I have seem discussed negotiations that happened EARLIER in the process than mine - in fact in the next week or so I would have cleared the last contingency - visa issuance. However, there is something that has been eating at me regarding the salary on offer and am wondering whether it is too late in the process and unprofessional to discuss this with Aramco at this stage. Based on what I have read, attempt to negotiate could sometimes be unsuccessful leading to withdrawal of offer or without the offer being improved. The basis of my attempt to try to re-negotiate my offer is that compared to my own income the Aramco offer is not bad. However, my Mrs is working professionally and would have to give up her job as a result of my relocation. When the Aramco offer (Base + Overbase + DBS) is compared to the FAMILY (mine & Mrs) income, the increase is just 38% which is not very motivating to relocate to KSA. My question is really specific: Is there anyone aware of someone who re-negotiated an offer after the visa was issued or when all other contingencies were cleared and was at the visa application stage? If you have information that could be useful and you do not feel ok to post on the forum, please PM me or send to nikky_igwe@yahoo.comI would be grateful for any info and all info would be treated in confidence.
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Post by bogiefrommuskogee on Nov 19, 2015 19:37:14 GMT
All I can tell you is that this is highly dependent on the personality of the people involved in the decision chain and will be made at a reasonably high level. In general, this is currently a "buyer's market" so all I can offer is tread lightly.
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Maursh
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Post by Maursh on Nov 21, 2015 7:34:27 GMT
The equation is not as simple as just "money in".
What are you giving up (wife's income for possibly the rest of her working life) What costs do you have which you won't need to pay in KSA (mortgage and childcare are two big ones)
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Post by teeboy12 on Nov 22, 2015 0:30:29 GMT
Maursh & bogiefrommuskogee, Thank you for your messages which has given me a lot to think about. I think what really makes me think about the loss of income is that due to the difficulty in getting place for kids in schools (as I have heard), I am thinking of leaving the family behind which means I'd still be paying mortgage. If I leave them at home then the wife will have to stop working, or we would have to start paying for childcare. Currently we don't pay for childcare due to the nature of our jobs which allows us to structure our work schedule to compensate for each others' absences. However, you both have raised key points which is really worth thinking about before doing anything regrettable.
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Post by bogiefrommuskogee on Nov 22, 2015 3:26:09 GMT
Usually negotiations are only incremental adjustments. It sounds like you need a major restructuring and, unless you are really the one necessary to fulfill the job requirements, it would surprise me if they considered your case individually. There is usually a disconnect between your recruiter, your future management and their business line head. In other words, your message will most likely get lost in translation.
I did do the one year wife/daughter in school back in the USA. I barely maintained family status (by one day) and it was much more expensive than it should have been on paper. Mortgage, utilities, transportation, food. That all makes sense. I discovered there were "hidden" costs that I hadn't accounted such as discretionary spending that got a little out of control which is less likely to happen when the family is all together.
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