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Post by CalWorPar on Aug 31, 2015 21:04:01 GMT
I am a Canadian on Global Payroll and have accepted an offer, currently going through BI. The weaker CAD has negatively impacted my offer (Global Payroll in USD). The global payroll documents mention about the "protected exchange rate" which protects me in case home currency (CAD) becoming stronger against USD. All well and good up to this point. My questions.
1) How the "protected exchange rate" is determined? Is it the exchange rate on day of joining SAUDI ARAMCO? Or is it avee of few years? 2) Does it apply to the basic salary or whole compensation package? 3) Does it apply to end of service benefits also? 4) Is there any upper limit (in %) for if the home currency goes too much stronger against USD? I have seen CAD from 0.68 to 1.08 against USD in last seven years.
Reply from recent Candidates on global payroll will be really useful. PM is fine.
Thanks CWP
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Post by teeboy12 on Aug 31, 2015 22:33:32 GMT
I am sure some of the answers would be found in the T & C that came with your offer.
The protection covers all elements of net pay plus one-time payments and end-of-service benefits and there are only a few exclusions. I am yet to know what the exclusions are. I believe net pay would be your base + overbase + DBS.
It is determined at the time of hire, which is the DAY you board the flight to Saudi.
Under the rate protection, all elements of net pay are converted at the COMPANY official rate of the Employee's protected rate, whichever is more advantageous to the employee.
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Post by mkimtiaz on Sept 1, 2015 1:54:28 GMT
I don't really understand the query, you will be paid in US dollars, so my understanding is that you will get more in CAD as US is stronger these days. I am also from Canada and going to join soon.
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Post by omega on Sept 1, 2015 11:16:27 GMT
There has been a lot of confusion about this so i asked my relocation advisor to ensure that i understand correctly how it works. So here is my understanding:
1) Aramco calculates a rolling 3-year avee FX rate between USD and the currency you choose (i.e. CAD in your case or EUR in mine). So if you join in 2015, they take the FX rate between 2012 and 2014. Once 2016 starts, they would take 2013-2015.
2) Every month they convert (assuming this is what you have chosen) your net salary (all inclusive) to your preferred currency at either the current rate or at the rolling 3-year avee rate, whichever is more favourable for you.
Note: I'm not really sure if there is also a discount applied on the rolling 3-year rate of 5% i.e. they worsen the rate by 5%.
I have heard before other versions i.e. that they convert to either the current rate or the 95% of the rate the day you joined (whichever is more preferable to you), but this version was not confirmed by my RA.
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Post by VictorRaj on Sept 1, 2015 18:15:20 GMT
Hi CWP, If you are paid in USD and CAD is weak, you should be benefitting . But you mentioned that the weaker CAD has negatively impacted your offer (Global Payroll in USD). Is it that the offer is in CAD and then converted to USD based on a certain exchange rate ? If there is an exchange rate protection mentioned, the protected rate should also be specified...
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Post by CalWorPar on Sept 1, 2015 20:04:52 GMT
Thanks Omega and Teeboy12 for your reply. So in conclusion (my understanding), although protected rate is set at time of hire, it is based on past three year's avee. There is quite a difference in current CAD:USD v/s past three years avee. That is reality. It is good to have clarity and understanding on this kind of matter. I think the 5% above the protected rate is dead band (Candidate's risk). If the current rate drops/increases (which ever way you look at) by more than 5% of the protected rate, then only you get paid the difference by ARAMCO. I am still not sure if there is any upper limit up to which ARAMCO will compensate for the difference. Thanks again.
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Post by teeboy12 on Sept 2, 2015 8:49:52 GMT
As I mentioned in my last post, the clause on protected exchange rate says: The protection covers all elements of net pay plus one-time payments and end-of-service benefits and there are only a few exclusions.
I have now been advised that the exclusions are Educational Assistance (for family status employees) and Rental Assistance. These are not covered by the protected exchange rate.
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Post by omega on Sept 3, 2015 11:17:58 GMT
It makes sense to exclude educational and rental assistance since in any case they are locally paid in USD or SAR (with the exception of the unaccountable RAA, which I guess few people choose anyway).
Regarding any cap in the FX rate compensation, as I understand there is none. So Aramco covers the full difference (between the current/actual rate and the Fixed rate) however high this difference may be.
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Uman
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Post by Uman on Sept 8, 2015 14:54:10 GMT
They havent changed any protected exchange rates at all.......initially they said they would review it every 2 years or something like that , however that has not happened at all......AUD protected rate is still 1.04........and real rate now is .69 they should adjust the protected rate imo..........
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Post by yamaaan on Apr 26, 2017 22:37:02 GMT
Reviving another old thread on the same subject of 'protected exchange rate'. I've accepted an offer and going through bi/medical. My T&Cs included the protected exchange rate but after the Brexit vote and announcement my RA contacted me to say Aramco have updated their policy and this ' projected exchange rate' clause no longer applies to me and I need to sign a new updated T&C.
There was no hiding the fact it was the Brexit behind it but how badly have I been affected (if all goes according to plan and I get my visa)? Should I be concerned? I know the £GBP has had a whacking thse days against the dollar.
I suppose I didn't really have much of a say, in Aramco up......... it's policy and I had not choice but to accept whilst in this limbo for contingencies to be completed.
Any food for thought?
Cheers Yamaaan
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PCPC
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Post by PCPC on Apr 29, 2017 19:18:06 GMT
Yamaaan, If you are coming on Global Payroll you would be paid in dollars not GBP. So hopefully nothing to worry about.
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Post by yamaaan on Apr 29, 2017 20:25:51 GMT
Thanks PCPC for your response. As I understand, even though my salary is worked out in $USD, I will have my salary paid into my UK bank account in £GBP. Therefore the exchange from $USD into GBP is not protected so it would appear I loose out.
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Post by swiftandsure on May 11, 2017 9:03:09 GMT
Yamaan - you get paid in dollars, and you can chose to keep that in KSA in your bank here, or transfer whatever percentage/amount you want to your U.K. Bank each month. The transfer is - as far as I can tell - at the exchange rate on the first day of the month you are being paid e.g. 1st May exchange rate determines your end of May exchange rate. There has hardly ever been a better time to earn in USD but exchange to GBP...
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Skillo
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Post by Skillo on May 29, 2017 16:14:47 GMT
I joined in 2015, get paid in dollars into uk bank, everything good after Brexit. Not sure how Aramco compensates in the opposite direction....remains to be seen.
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