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Post by abc123 on Jun 12, 2014 21:06:44 GMT
hi guys, Just received an email from my recruiter after the interview that my application is put "on Hold" for now and I should hear from them in few weeks time. I called and spoke to recruiter and the recruiter told me that I should hear from aramco in weeks but not in months but can't guarantee anything or a response and also the recruiter wasn't sure that whether I will be given a job offer or not and can't give me a specific reason to why my position was On Hold. She also mentioned that she hasn't hear anything -negative feedback from aramco on my application which is good thing and also mentioned that rejected few candidates and which were informed already. I have got very mixed feelings about this as I had the good interview and I was looking forward to the opportunity which now I may/may not get.  There are couple of questions in my mind 1. What could be the reason aramco put me on Hold , surely they could have rejected me and said No. Is that a normal practice in Aramco? 2. The reason could be a) or b) below or something completely different? a) I am a second/third choice and if first/2nd offers gone wrong for any reason they will offer me the role? Otherwise they wouldn't get back to me ? b) They will hire me later should a new similar position get opened in the same department? 3. Should I apply other vacancies or wait for the On hold application outcome? 4. Anyone gone through the same and got the offer letter /rejection later? How long did it take you to get the response. I know every application is different but on this fantastic forums there must be people who must have gone through the process i.e. On Hold and then offer/rejection As always your response will be appreciated. J |
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Post by Wutz on Jun 13, 2014 11:30:29 GMT
Of course, no one here really knows what might be up with your situation.
But there's a chance that your original interviewer recommended a hire, and one or more in the approval chain is out of office. I do a lot of interviews - if I recommend someone, there's still a lot of internal review before an offer is extended.
As is said so often on the forum here, have patience and try not to fret about things too much (good prep for when/if you get here).
Best of luck,
Wutz
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Post by abc123 on Jun 13, 2014 13:40:12 GMT
Thanks Wutz,
Appreciate your response.
Regards,
J
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Post by Shammal on Jun 17, 2014 23:48:33 GMT
abc123,
Regarding applying to other positions- I'm told that once they call you in for an interview, that position owns you in the system until they release you.
Thats not to say that the recruiter or hiring manager couldn't forward or recommend your resume somewhere else, but supposedly the system will not let anyone else call you for an interview until you are released from the position you are currently being considered for.
I imagine that there is no harm in applying for mote positions. Just remember that you can only apply to 4 positions at a time and no one knows when any of them will release your resume and allow you to apply for another position. All 4 of my slots have been tied up since February.
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Post by Shammal on Jun 17, 2014 23:52:07 GMT
I feel your pain. I interviewed for a position similar to yours back in February. Positive feedback. Told to expect a follow-up interview within a couple weeks.
I have been contacted multiple times since, requesting times that I would be available for a skype interview with more senior management.
I give them days and times, no reply. I ask what happened, they say to be patient and ask for more days and times. I tell them to name a time and I'll accommodate it. Nothing. Told to be patient.
Apparently HR contingents from across the company are being consolidated into one group. In the upheaval, I'm told that the senior HR person assigned to me is not able to find an hour for the Skype interview during or after hours. (I'll assume that I'm one of many interviews he's assigned)
Now that Ramadan is upon us, who knows when they'll get to it with all they've got going.
I'm pretty disappointed at his point and that is frustrating. My spouse warming up to the idea and then becoming excited was a true miracle. From the forum, we knew that this could take as long as a year, but as little as three months. We were so excited and talked about Aramco every day for a couple months. I thought chances were good we'd be there when school starts for the kids in late August(Feb->August). Now this appears unlikely if an offer does come.
I'm certainly grateful to be considered, but it feels as though the dream is dying the death of a thousand Aramco paper-cuts.
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Post by Wutz on Jun 18, 2014 3:08:33 GMT
Shamal,
I bet if you did a search for 'patient' and 'patience' on the forum, you'd get more hits that just about any other words.
One of the biggest cultural changes for me was this. At least in the States, you get used to the idea of things being structured, straightforward, time bound and predictable. Here, very little is (to the point that it's a very pleasant surprise when something is). The process of learning patience starts at the application stage, but it does not end when you come here. In the end, it's probably a healthy thing - very few of the folks you meet here are as tightly-wound as I was used to in the States.
Wutz
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Post by Shammal on Jun 18, 2014 6:04:24 GMT
Wutz,
Yes, I'm well aware of the culture, but thank you for your incite. It is very interesting. I actually grew up in Dhahran, but that was some time ago.
Perhaps the reason "patience" is advised so often is not because of how common, but how much patience can be required.
It is very unusual to be actively considered for a position over a period of 6/8/10+ months, but very common to be anxious about an upcoming interview or pending job offer.
When two weeks is suggested but that turns out to be two or three months, thats just torture.
All probably worth it, but its still torture :shock:
I suppose it wouldn't be as tough if we weren't so excited :wink:
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Post by Shammal on Jul 24, 2014 22:50:19 GMT
Follow up: I was contacted for two additional interviews via Skype with Saudi and extended an offer all during Ramadan. At least two months of the wait were due to a future supervisor out on a long vacation+business trip. Once I accepted the offer, I received overnight mail, emails or phone calls from Houston almost everyday since(about a week and a half). I'm surprised and thrilled by how quickly things seem to be moving now that the interview process is over. Still a lot of process ahead though.
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Post by Wutz on Jul 25, 2014 3:38:41 GMT
Shammal,
Congrats on receiving & accepting the offer. Sounds like your timeline "hiccups" were caused by one of the big benefits of working here (being able to take long vacations). It's probably the most common causes of scheduling variability.
Wutz
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Post by kasodume on Aug 19, 2014 0:54:14 GMT
Dear Friends, I hope that all of you are ok!
I would like to ask for help from you , The question is that I had a VCI last may 28 , i was told that in two weeks I should be recieving the feedback about it , however it was not like that .
I sent an email to my recruiter twice every months after interview but she even did not replied any of them. So 3 months after I am waiting for any signal from the recruiter , I would like to know if this is normal?? I know that the timeline here is slow but currently I dont know if the VCI was well or not! do I have to lose the hope about the interview results?
Please some advice.
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Post by vpainter on Aug 20, 2014 14:11:53 GMT
Please do a search on the forum for Timeline and read for yourself the length of time between interview and offer, there are many current and past postings.
Your wait and all waiting times are normal.
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Post by Shammal on Aug 20, 2014 17:59:06 GMT
kasodume,
It is not fun to get your hopes up and then worry for months about all of the reasons why you have not been contacted. Especially if the recruiter is not responding.
My experience was that they became very careful about showing favoritism after my first interview. I say careful because I did not feel that my questions in any way put myself at an advantage over any other candidate. The reply was that they could not show favoritism and wished me good luck.
I will say that through this process and especially while at orientation, I perceived that people at ASC are generally VERY kind. The recruiter may be a bit more guarded because Aramco requires it, or because they simply don't have the information you need until the department doing the hiring gives it to them.
It is unfortunate that no-one has communicated with you since your interview months ago. If you call and then select the automated directory, you should at least be able to speak the person's name and be forwarded to their voicemail.
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Post by Swhity045 on Aug 21, 2014 10:30:12 GMT
Hi Shammal thanks for your post. You mentioned the hr department merging, is your position in hr?
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Post by Melody on Sept 3, 2014 13:37:49 GMT
Kasodume, Actually I don't mean to raise your hope unreasonably  8) .Judging from what I learnt in this forum, patience does it.I was in the same boat after my VCI, I didnt get any reply till after three months before my payslips was demanded for.From this forum, it means a successful interview. I feel that your VCI is actually successful,if not you could have gotten the negative notification a long time ago. Expect the next stage of payslips request.The process does vary from one candidate to another. |
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8) .Judging from what I learnt in this forum, patience does it.I was in the same boat after my VCI, I didnt get any reply till after three months before my payslips was demanded for.From this forum, it means a successful interview.