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Post by Glaswegian on Sept 19, 2013 8:38:16 GMT
Folks,
I got in touch with the Aramco school in Abqaiq. As my son's D.O.B is in December 2004, he would be placed in 3rd grade in Aramco school. He is currently in P4 in Scotland and that means that he will have to repeat the previous year. I know that in England he would have been in P3 due to his birthday falling after September. It will be psychological challenge for my son to understand as he will be upset about going back to 3rd grade.
Is there anyone from Scotland or England had same issue previously or recently?
Thanks
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Post by vpainter on Sept 20, 2013 20:40:50 GMT
I can't address Aramco schools, but can address holding our son back having him repeat a year. Our son was disappointed, but found he was much more successful having repeated the previous year.
Although your son's situation is not a hold back, it is a repeat of what he considers the year he has just completed. Aramco schools are advanced, you can let him know that the class he is going into would be equivalent to the grade he would be going into. An explanation of the different curriculum may help. Parents' reaction and atude to the grade will determine your son's reaction more than anything. If you can be positive about the change, he will become positive also. It will also be a big help, that he will be with different students, no one will know he is repeating unless he or you decides to tell someone. He will be on an equal footing with his classmates.
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Post by GroveWanderer on Sept 22, 2013 11:33:19 GMT
In one very real sense, he will not be repeating a year. He will be doing a different year, in a different school system with a different curriculum, studying different topics. There may very possibly be some overlap with what he has already done but I would venture to suggest that, unless you tell him he is repeating a year, he will not consider that he is.
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Post by azraeil on Sept 24, 2013 5:01:25 GMT
I just moved my daughter to Year 7 (she was supposed to be in 6th Grade this year in Middle School) in one of the boarding school, she complains that the Math being taught in Year 7 in the school is the thing that she already learned in 5th Grade (so the Math here is quite advanced) and she is getting a bit bored.
Now need to talk to the school about this boring Math issue.
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Post by Baileydoodle on Sept 28, 2013 19:15:06 GMT
As a school counselor I always explain to kids and families that Grade or Year levels are like shoe sizes- just because they have a different number in different countries doesn't mean your foot has gotten smaller or bigger or someone is giving you the wrong size (a UK 6 may be a 13 in the US). The same is true for Grade/Year levels. Systems do not have the same names for Primary/Elementary levels so you can't figure the proper year for a child based on the Grade or Year they are coming from without looking at an equivalency chart and the child's birthdate. Each country has its own cutoff dates for the starting of school as well. If the number is lower, it does not mean that the child has been retained. In regards to the comment about Year 7/GR 6 math, those are equivalent grade levels in those systems. UK Year 7 is the equivalent year to GR 6 in the US system. However, as can be the case when you change school systems there are sometimes repeats in curriculum material, as well as gaps. The best equivalency chart I've seen was on the American School of Lagos site for Admissions. www.aislagos.org/admission/apply.php on page 14 of the downloadable admissions handbook. Below is from Wikipedia, I'm not sure it's correct. According to the chart from ISL, the equivalent year for the Scottish system, Primary 4 is GR 3 in the US system. So again, it is not a demotion or repeat of a year. It is important that children understand that. Scotland Age at start of school year Age at end of school year Primary 1 4 - 5 5 - 6 Primary 2 5 - 6 6 - 7 Primary 3 6 - 7 7 - 8 Primary 4 7 - 8 8 - 9 Primary 5 8 - 9 9 - 10 Primary 6 9 - 10 10 - 11 Primary 7 10 - 11 11 - 12 US Schools- Avee starting and ending age Kindergarten 5-6 1st grade 6-7 2nd grade 7-8 3rd grade 8-9 4th grade 9-10 5th grade 10-11 6th grade 11-12 7th grade 12-13
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Post by Hero55 on Sept 30, 2013 16:11:47 GMT
Dear Baileydoodle My daughter birthday is july 2007 so she already turned 6yr before the cutoff and they placed her in KG. Additionally, she did KG2 last year and also 1 year before that in france. She is currently in primary 1 in British curriculum school. I am still in relocation process and really worry why the propose KG for her. Can you share your experience
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Post by Glaswegian on Oct 1, 2013 9:23:43 GMT
Folks,
Thanks for your thoughts and experiences and i much appreciate it.
Bailey, I really liked your shoe size example and it helped us understand the two school systems. My kids are now looking forward to the new start.
With regards
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Post by Hero55 on Oct 1, 2013 11:20:19 GMT
Dear all They fixed my daughter problem and placed her in Grade 1 but they unfortunately downgraded my son who turned to 4 yrs just 8 days after cutoff. His birthday is 8 sep 2009 and he is currently on KG 2 in a private British school. He did KG 1 last year and SAS said he should wait until next sep to be pk4 which is really unfortunate for him as eventually he will spent 4 years in kindergarten this year will be either lost or I have to pay for pk3 for him. Any advice if feedback please
Cheers
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Post by UmmRiyam on Oct 1, 2013 17:44:14 GMT
I understand how you feel. My daughter just turned 5 in September, and she's in K4 now. There are other kids in the same situation. Aramco is pretty strict on the age cut offs, but I can tell you that although my daughter would excel this year in kindergarten, she really enjoys K4 and is not bored at all. She has two cousins, one 6 weeks older and one 6 weeks younger, in the Saudi school system who are now in Kindergarten this year. So, I keep thinking about my daughter and some of the other Saudi kids in the Aramco school who will be much older than their classmates when they switch over to Saudi schools for 1st grade.
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Post by Hero55 on Oct 2, 2013 4:52:54 GMT
Thanks ummriyam My daughter is 2 yrs and 2 months older than my son so she suppose to be 2 grades ahead from my son however by this strict system she is going to be 3 grades ahead. He will be grade 1 when she is already grade 4. I think they should be flexible with this cutoff.
Additionally if we consider hijri calendar my son already turned 4 last ramadan. So it is really an unfortunate to make him lose this year or even if he goes pk3 which is not practical for him
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Post by UmmRiyam on Oct 2, 2013 6:21:28 GMT
You might be able to convince them to move your son up, but it depends on the school principal. You probably won't be able to do anything until you arrive. I would suggest going in and talking to them directly. They may or may not make an exception for your son, but since he's already been going to school, then it's definitely worth trying. That actually may weigh very greatly in your favor since much of K3 is teaching the children how to interact with each other and how to line up and get their things and sit in a circle and how to clean up, etc. They learn about life in units...for example, last year a few of the units were: Trees, Buildings, Clothing, and Recycling. My daughter only went half of the year, so I am not sure what other units they covered. K4 is similar with learning in units like that, but this year in K4 they are going to start handwriting with the capital letters, and then they will do the lowercase letters in Kindergarten.
Even if they say no, and recommend he go to K3, then still put him in the school. It's so worth it for him to interact with other kids and he WILL still be learning. Every preschool is different, and there's sooooo much for preschoolers to explore about the world. They read stories and sing songs and do art and cooking and playing. It's really great, even if academically he's way ahead of his peers. (I say that because my daughter (ma sha' ) can read small books and write and add and subtract, etc....she's been doing simple math since she was 3, and at 2 years old she drew a picture of a cat and wrote CAT on the board! but, she absolutely loves school, and she learns all kinds of things there!)
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