jcjr
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Post by jcjr on Jul 17, 2013 3:16:41 GMT
Dear all guys, I did start the hiring process and I said to Aramco that I would start in a family delayed arrival ( I am married with one son ) since my wife said she would be available to travel in 90 days ( she is attending a MBA ), but after some detailed check she realized that would not be possible to her get moving before 6 months! But when she told me that the hiring process was very advanced.
So... When I informed my relocation in charge she told me that changing from Family to Single or Bachelor could affect my offer.
My questions for you guys is:
will Aramco change something in term of salary or overbase due to no longer being in Family status? What could be changed ? I expected only the house but what else? I was designated to Abqaiq in a Family status, but now in Single or Bachelor what place would I be designated? (My office will be Dharan), if I get the Bachelor will I be allowed to visit my family 3 times a year?
Tnks in advance for all that could help me!
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Post by azraeil on Jul 17, 2013 6:02:48 GMT
The overbase will change a little bit if you change from a bachelor status to a family status. So that's one. As for housing, yes, it will be difficult.
What I would suggest is for you to try and maintain your family status. I don't see the need to change it to bachelor status as I know of several of my friends who did the same (a good friend had his spouse coming in 7 months after his arrival, while another basically maintained family status eventhough his wife only comes 3 times a year). All this however will require some sort of agreement with your department head and almost all of the time, your boss wouldn't mind.
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jcjr
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Post by jcjr on Jul 17, 2013 10:19:26 GMT
Thanks!
Oh no!!! If the overbase decreases a lot it could make me change from yes for the offer! Thats my biggest concern for the moment.
About the house... I do not care about living in a family house without my family near by, but for sure I would be much more comfortable being in a single room apartment in Dhahran instead of being alone in a big house in Abq.
But let me know, does the bachelor status realy would provide me with 3 paid trips a year back home? If yes It could be in place of this small decrease of overbase, am I wrong?
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Post by Buster on Jul 17, 2013 14:42:51 GMT
I'm not too sure how much it will affect the overbase to be honest but the difference on vacation as below
Family - 38 days for most people (some people only at 30 days) and 1 paid trip a year
Bachelor - 50 days and 3 paid trips a year (1 full, 2 intermediate) - officially the 3 trips will be evenly split i.e. every 4 months but there is some leeway
If you plan to get your wife out in 6 months I would maintain family status. It even takes some people that length of time to get a visa for the family. It may take you some time and effort to get your status changed out here.
You may just want to utilise the time to get the family house in order. To maintain family status you wife must be in the country for 180 days a year (I think!)
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Post by GeoROCKS on Jul 17, 2013 15:51:40 GMT
My Fiance and I are in the same situation, sort of. We are engaged and planned on getting married April 2014. However, back in May Aramco started contacting him with a potential job opportunity. He is currently a geologist here in the states. He was given an offer, which was then revised becuase the salary was not much more than he already makes here. After careful consideration we decided it would be best for him to accept the job.
This whole time the recruiter gave him bachelor status but in fact we are not married yet. We have decided if we need to get married before he leaves we will and I will meet him there within the first 90 days - no problem. He was assigned a relocation advisor yesterday and she has been much more pleasant and understanding than his recruiter. I just don't think he understood our situation. His relocation advisor told him his status will change his salary and travel allowance. We are not sure of how much. She is telling us that we need to get married before they start BI etc. I guess this will mean we will have to be married within the week if we want this process to go by any faster. His recruiter had originally told him he would be leaving end of September.
We are both begining to get very excited about our next chapter and I worry this could be a set back or cause us to reconsider this.
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Post by azraeil on Jul 20, 2013 10:40:26 GMT
There have been many cases of those who come in as single status (vs. Bachelor ... there is actually a difference) and got married after they joined and then changed their status to family. For the UK payroll, there will be a slight change in terms of the overbase amount (higher amount I believe) and also the leave enlement and also the repat allowance.
Your fiancee can probably do it either way (come in as a single status, and then after getting married in the summer of 2014, request the status change).
Getting married earlier probably doesn't hurt either.
Good Luck!
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jcjr
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Post by jcjr on Jul 22, 2013 23:47:19 GMT
first of all thanks for all helping provided!!!
well, my situation is a little different, in fact I am married since 2009 and I have one son, that was exactly what I informed on all the process, since the first offer.
but at BI time I discovered that Saudi law does not recognizes common law marriage (that is what I have and fits for all my needs while in Brazil).
so in fact my first position was Family status with delayed arrival, but to do that I needed a regular marriage certificate, then I had to request to convert my common law in regular marriage but for my surprise the process will lasts 60 days!!!
I had two options for while, to wait the 60 days long process to finish and get my regular marriage certificate and request a bachelor from beginning or to start going as single (since my mind is everyday more and more turned to this new challenge), so I will be in Saudi up to my regular certificate gets issued, when it happens I will change from Single to Bachelor. So after 6 months (that's the time my wife asked before moving to Saudi) I will request for Family status.
My biggest concern at this time is to be a critical decrease in overbase and it for itself could change all my plans of moving to there... my recruiter told me the salary keeps the same whatever is the status, but you know... overbase in my case is around 1/3 of the whole earning ( is it at avee, is high or low?)
the new offer should come by Friday.... up to there a long long time to wait....
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Post by alanford2000 on Dec 30, 2013 21:05:42 GMT
Can someone please clarify (in red) the vacation time:
- Family - 38 days (working or calendar?) and 1 paid trip a year (is this trip included in vacation time, or this is an extra time to 38 days?)
- Bachelor - 50 days (working or calendar?) and 3 paid trips a year (1 full (what is full?), 2 intermediate (what is intermediate?)); are these trips included in vacation time, or this is an extra time to 50 days?
Can vacation days be used during the first year of employment?
Thanks!
Alan
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