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Post by CheeseyPouf on Mar 25, 2013 4:08:13 GMT
o, all. I may be missing it in the Relocation Guide or one of the other myriad documents we've received, but...
How does Saudi Aramco address sick time? Does that come out of the vacation time bank? I'm not, of course, planning to be sick, but assume that the typical things -- colds (hots?) and flus -- happen in KSA.
Thanks, CP
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Post by UmmRiyam on Mar 25, 2013 6:56:44 GMT
When my husband is sick, he goes to the clinic, and the doctor gives him a note which he gives to his boss. The time off is not taken out of his vacation, but it is recorded in the system. My husband is also able to leave work to take me and the kids to medical appointments when needed. I think Aramco is pretty laid back, but if you abuse the privilege, then you could be in trouble.
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Post by Hadia on Mar 25, 2013 7:10:11 GMT
Your husband must work in a really flexible department. New hires should not assume all departments are the same.
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Post by CheeseyPouf on Mar 26, 2013 1:59:08 GMT
So, in a non-relaxed department, sick time counts against vacation?
Meh, it's not really an issue to chase; I'm certainly not planning to be sick, and have probably aveed no more than 2 sick days a year for the past 6 years or so. I can wait to hear how my department addresses it.
Thanks! CP
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Post by GroveWanderer on Mar 26, 2013 7:05:01 GMT
No, it doesn't matter which department you're in, if you go to the clinic and the doctor releases you from work, the 'M' time (sick time) is automatically entered into the system and notified to your Dept timekeeper. It's not up to your dept to decide if you're enled to sick time or not, it's up to the doctor.
I think what Hadia is referring to, is whether the Dept is OK with you taking time off work to accompany your family members to the clinic. Some are, some aren't. In my personal experience, every dept I've worked for has been OK with this - in fact the number of times you look for a colleague or even the Dept manager and find they are out, accompanying a wife or child to the clinic is tremendous. YMMV
If you have an appointment, you are always enled to attend it - in fact if you don't (or a family member doesn't) you get a notification of a "no-show." If you get 3 of them in a year, your Dept gets a notification about it and it could be counted against you. So the onus is definitely on making sure people attend their medical appointments.
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Post by Hadia on Mar 26, 2013 8:03:36 GMT
Yes, GW is right. I was referring to accompanying family members. What I'm getting at is that every dept has its own flavor, and employees (especially new ones) may not always feel like it's in their best interest to make such requests to leave work to take a family member to the doctor. Not everyone works in a flexible environment where employees feel like they can ask to leave work to take their kids for an appointment or to attend school functions in the middle of the day. Hopefully, the new hires reading this will all get placed in depts that are flexible, though!
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Post by UmmRiyam on Mar 27, 2013 8:05:53 GMT
It may depend on the appointment and circumstances as well as the actual position. For example, we live in UDH, so if we have a medical appointment in Dhahran or Al Hasa, then my husband has to leave work to take us. Although he has left work many times to take us to the UDH clinic because we only have 1 car. If he has a company car that week, then I can take the kids myself. However, we do try to schedule the appointments so that it will either extend his lunch break a little bit or as late in the afternoon as possible, but he's always taking calls anyways when he's out of his office.
They may be a lot less flexible in Dhahran for families living in the compound.
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