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Post by opa1954 on Nov 26, 2011 1:02:05 GMT
For SugarlandTX, I have a question about the Hypo tax. I am assuming that if you're paying the hypo tax, the foreign income exclusion doesn't apply, and therefore, the requirement to stay out of the US for 330 days doesn't apply either. Is that true?
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Post by tarik on Feb 1, 2012 2:02:06 GMT
What is the C&S allowance? and how Aramco handles Canadian tax?
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Post by trojan on Feb 18, 2012 19:48:32 GMT
I have another question regarding U.S. taxes, since there are many changes being discussed for the U.S. tax system:
* What happens to the hypo tax when the U.S. tax tables and rules are changed in the future? The offer letter is unclear. The footnotes in my offer letter almost sound as if the basis for the hypotehical tax is 'locked-in' to a certain year.
* Can there be a case where U.S. AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) takes effect in the hypothetical tax calculation? I hope not.
Thanks,
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Post by nikita_88 on May 13, 2012 0:01:52 GMT
I think this is the information that i need. Thank you for clearing things out. I don't have any questions for now. Just in case i don't understand some things again i will bump this thread or create a new thread for my concerns.
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Post by scotsyankee on Aug 9, 2012 8:34:28 GMT
So having now been through it once this is my understanding:
Basically you end up with: Base less hypo tax, which is calculated as the tax you would pay if you were earning your base salary in the US, taking into account your # of exemptions, the foreign earned income exclusion, and assuming you have 20% of base in itemized deductions. plus your expat premium, C&S, other benefits on which they pay the taxes.
If you have other non-Aramco income it will be taxed at the marginal rate you would be paying if you were earning all salary + expat premium + benefits in the US (ie 33% if $172k for example). The FEI exclusion doesn't affect your marginal rate. If you get any pay raise in future it is effectively taxed at the high marginal rate (e.g. 33%)
State taxes are your responsibility.
If you have / had a green card you have to declare to PWC each year whether you have given it up. If you don't use PWC you are 'obliged' to fill in Form 8??? on request which allows Aramco to see your 1040. If you are on the US payroll and give up your green card Aramco you will stay on the US payroll but Aramco will stop paying your taxes. As I don't have 20% of base in itemized deductions this leads to a small benefit for me, but basically its a wash.
If you have a green card you are 'supposed' to surrender it if you plan to reside long-term outside of the US. If you surrender it voluntarily you can reapply again from scratch in future without any prejudice. If they suspect you are residing outside the US they can take it away. If it is removed this way it may harm your chances of reapplying. Rule of thumb seems to be you are OK for the first year, but they recommend you apply for a 'permit to reenter' which seems to extend it to about 2 years. Beyond 2 years you likely need some evidence of US residency such as home ownership etc, and you are taking a risk.
NOTE - If you give up/lose the green card and then return to the US less than 3 clear calendar years after the year in which you give it, you may have to pay back-taxed for the time you were away.
If you are in a very high tax bracket you should also check the expatriation tax rules.
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Post by revive on Apr 10, 2013 16:11:18 GMT
What if you have very significant deductions (i.e. charitable contributions, rental loss) amounting to more than 20% of gross income, which means your actual tax is less than what is assumed by Aramco? Is there any way to get a tax refund?
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Post by soverydeb on Apr 10, 2013 22:55:22 GMT
Yes, we got a refund this year.
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Post by revive on May 22, 2013 14:14:53 GMT
Did you end up in the lower tax bracket (due to the FEI exclusion) or a higher tax bracket (because your expat income was high)?
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Post by soverydeb on May 22, 2013 16:12:16 GMT
Lower, because the gross adjusted income is lowered. We also have a rental property and we give to charities---which lower the amount as well.
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Post by revive on May 22, 2013 21:07:11 GMT
Thanks....!!
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Post by revive on Oct 9, 2013 12:46:19 GMT
o, I just joined Aramco about 2 months ago. Currently 2 tax items are being deducted from my paycheck: (1) Hypothetical Tax, and (2) FIT Withholding.
I wonder why do I need FIT Withholding. Isn't Hypo Tax supposed to represent the actual amount of tax burdens that I'm ultimately liable to pay (while the rest will be covered by Aramco)? Is this an accurate statement or not?
Do people typically setup FIT Withholding?
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Post by xjonesy on Nov 8, 2013 16:18:10 GMT
Can I ask for a little clarification? I’ve tried to read through the many tax-related posts online, but I’m confused on a few things:
1. Can someone define C&S, expat premium, repat, and EAP? These look to all be taxable benefits…but what are they? I assume “repat” is the travel money received to return to place of residence – what about the other terms?
2. Also, if Aramco doesn’t use the Foreign Earned Income exclusion when calculating the tax we owe, does a US expat not need to worry about the 330 day rule? Because the 330 day rule applies to the FEI exclusion, is that correct? That means I could spend more than 35 days/year in the US and not worry about the FEI rules, if I’m understanding correctly.
Thank you for any clarifications if I’m misunderstood something.
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Post by arcie1001 on Mar 31, 2014 14:33:12 GMT
o everyone! I have a question regarding the Tax Balancing Calculation. A family member started worked for Aramco in late 2012. Being a CPA here in the States he had asked me to continue preparing his tax return. The family member's tax return is quite complicated ( multiple real estate properties, equity and bond investments, partnerships, etc. ). 2013 is his first full year at Aramco that I am preparing his tax return.
Question: Regarding the Tax Balancing Calculation Schedule: To compute the Total Tax Burden, do I add the Net Hypothetical Tax and Tax Per The Tax Return and then subtract the Theoretical Tax. Since he started late in 2012, net hypothetical tax was zero. I cannot determine from the worksheet how this computation was handled.
On Schedule 1; what is the Aramco Exclusion From (Form)? I understand that the Tax Return Exclusion represents the adjusted Foreign Earned Income Exclusion.
The rest of the calculation is straightforward. With all things considered, from a tax perspective; working for Aramco is a sweet deal. I have over 300 clients here in Southern CA and it seems like the tax burden for the "working poor" is getting heavier and heavier each passing year. Thank you everyone.
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Post by Ian on Apr 2, 2014 3:27:50 GMT
I have accepted an offer and have further questions to Sugerland. Vpainter, I am unable to PM Sugerland. How can I contact Sugerland?
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Post by vpainter on Apr 5, 2014 21:49:48 GMT
Until you have completed the approval process on the forum, you will be unable to contact any user directly.
You may ask your questions in a post and put in your email address and ask sugerland to contact you.
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