Uman
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Post by Uman on Feb 11, 2014 14:50:09 GMT
Basically I get all my pay in SAR and I want to send some home every second/third month. My pay goes into my SABB account. When I have used them in the past to send money they charged me 5% of the amount.......10k = 500$ which is way too expensive imo.
Can anyone offer cheaper alternatives?
Thanks in advance.
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derekg
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Post by derekg on Feb 11, 2014 14:51:49 GMT
I have found NCB to be affordable for money transfers if you get all your pay deposited there and get a credit card. Once you have this, request the gold standard banking and you get a preferential exchange rate to USD and the outgoing transfer is free.
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Post by UmmRiyam on Feb 11, 2014 17:54:04 GMT
We use NCB to transfer money to our USA bank account. I cannot remember what the fees are, but they're really reasonable.
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Post by harry76 on Apr 5, 2014 15:12:33 GMT
Hi Guys,
So if you used NCB for banking, what sort of preferential rate did you get on the USD? SAR is pegged to 3.75 US$ typically, so just wondering how much different is the preferential rate from the pegged official rate? Appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks!
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Post by vpainter on Apr 5, 2014 19:41:05 GMT
2015, this check writing is only available if you have a bank account at the bank.
write a check for USD at the NCB the rate is 3.73/$1.
pay would be at 3.75 if deposited into NCB.
NCB buys USD at 3.74
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Post by harry76 on Apr 7, 2014 4:43:46 GMT
Thank you - thats helpful! Cheers!
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Post by dgc00 on Apr 17, 2014 11:17:35 GMT
I have a SABB premier account with a USD current account. Moving SAR to the USD account is at 3.75 (easy to do online). I also have HSBC accounts in North America - transfers from SABB to other HSBC accounts are free.
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cgyguy
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Post by cgyguy on Apr 17, 2014 19:35:27 GMT
Dgc00, did you open the HSBC account before going to KSA? Thanks
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Post by dgc00 on Apr 19, 2014 6:29:22 GMT
Yes, I did - over the phone - used to be easier back then. If you are already here, call them or maybe sabb can help. Or open a premier acct in bahrain and then they will help open one in your home country (bahrain HSBC card also gives you access to dilmun lounge in airport).
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Post by fgonza on May 19, 2014 18:02:51 GMT
As anyone use money transfer agencies in KSA like Western Union/Air Pak?, Do you know the fees to transfer from KSA to South or Central America?
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 16:44:52 GMT
Have your salary paid to your Saoudi bank account. Open an Oanda account, preferably in Asia; obviously this type of account is normally for trading, but you can use it as well for converting and transfering money. To convert USD in any other currency, the exchange rate is avee market read plus / minus the spread, which is bettert than with any bank. For example in case of EUR / USD, when the market is flat (not volatile, no strong and rapid fluctuations), the spread is +/- one pip (avee e.g. 1.34, selling at 1.3399 and buying at 1.3401). I calculated that Aramco charged me 0.25% for paying my salary to my Euro account, and above this, you can not select the date at which exchange rate is calculated, so if like in July the EUR/USD declines by 1.7%, at the end of the month you have 2% less from your salary. With an 'Elite account' or similar, Saoudi banks charger no cost for transfering money to accounts denominated in USD and I calculated that the exchange rate costs from SAR to USD are less than 0.1%. You need for that to get 30 000 ryal paid monthly to your saoudi account. Then after that you can transfer whatever amount you want to your Oanda account. There are no costs for incoming payment, but a minimum fee as indicated here: fxtrade.oanda.com/help/how-to-withdraw-fundsYou can however withdraw funds only in supported currencies, and you need to prove that the account you send the money too belongs to you. The way to do it is to connect the receiving bank account to your Oanda account and to send some money to Oanda from this account. From there on you can send anytime any amount from Oanda back to your foreign bank account. One additionnal benefit, if you feel fit to do so, and expect variations of currency rates, you can hedge your deposit amounts by using Oanda subaccounts (meaning you can only exchange in foreign currencies the deposit amount you have on your main Oanda account), or even by using your trading account you can trade the forex markets with a levee of up to 40:1, but I would not recommand this because it is the fastest and easiest way to declare bankrupcy. There is no cheaper way than using Oanda to transfer money abroad, while maintaining some funds available on you Saoudi bank account and on your Oanda account, and you control everything. By the way, there is also a possibility to send money to your family members if they separately open an Oanda account and you make a common subaccount linking both Oanda subaccounts. For example you have a relative in the UK, get your pay in SAR, transfer money to you Oanda main US account, put the desire amount on a GBP subaccount (paying only the minium spread), which you make common with your relative Oanda account, and then your relative is able to transfert GBP to his/her GBP bank account. Once again he/she first will have to send an amount from their GBP bank account to their Oanda account if they want to be able to receive money from Oanda. I used an Oanda US account before for transfers, closed it when coming to KSA, and I will reopen an account end of the month with my next pay when I become Elite with my Saoudi bank; I will share my experience with you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 18:58:45 GMT
Following a visit to my saudi bank, here more details:
SAR / USD : avee 3.75 (fix exchange rate) ; buy 3.7551 ; sell 3.741
=> If you sell your SAR to buy USD, it costs you 0.009 / 3.75 = 0.24%
SAR / EUR : buy 5.11514 ; sell 4.93327
Not knowing the avee, we should consider the spread between buy and sell is 0.18, and half that value is 0.09. Converting SAR in EUR is not a good idea, since the "loss" is at least 0.09 / 5.115 ~ 1.76%
It is a much better idea to send money from the bank account in saudi ryals with an elite account (at no fees) to an OANDA account denominated in USD, make a conversion with one pip cost (negligeable), and forward the amount in EUR to an EUR bank account. I am becoming ELITE in one or two days, will open an Oanda account, and will confirm everything when I am so far...
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Post by fishfash on Aug 22, 2014 12:04:15 GMT
hi atactic
i'm guessing you're joining the finance department!!
great insight into using oanda for repatriating funds - my only question is, could you clarify what conversion rate is used when you pay SAR into the USD denominated Oanda account.
I'm guessing this rate also varies by bank and by 'elite account' status - which Saudi bank are you using and do you recommend it?
thanks!
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Uman
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Post by Uman on May 6, 2015 14:40:22 GMT
My question is this....
Can Aramco send part salary direct into such an account? Global payroll so USD's
Onanda is one.....Moneycorp is another.......it seems the best way NOT to get ripped off!
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Post by vpainter on May 13, 2015 14:20:34 GMT
Go to your payroll office and ask.
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