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Post by Ahmed9470 on Jan 18, 2014 7:25:17 GMT
Hi,
I received an initial offer in GC-14 during mid dec 2013 but soon after that I asked for the revision. It has been 4-5 week now since my request for revision has gone and still have nothing came back.
My question please!....
1- Is there any risk that the offer will be withdrawn if someone asks for a review on the initial offer?
2- Can I accept the initial offer now though the first 7 days response period has already been expired.
3- Does Aramco consider raise in base figures?
4- What is the normal time line for the revised offer to get?
Any experience or knowledge you have will be thankful if you like to share. Looking forward to the responses.
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Post by vpainter on Jan 20, 2014 21:17:08 GMT
1. Over the last 10+ years there have been a handful of offers withdrawn when an attempt to negotiate has occurred. But it is usually not a problem.
2. You probably could, I suggest you make some attempts to contact your recruiter. A 4-5 week interval is not unusual if a person who needs to approve what you have asked for is on vacation.
3. Yes, a raise in base pay has been negotiated. It is most approved when the offer came back lower than what the person was making. Writing a letter and asking them to match it and including pay stubs again has been mostly approved according to those on the forum who have done so. There are a few that the answer came back no increase, the offer stands.
4. Timeline on negotiations also vary: a week up to 2 to 3 months depending on time of year, vacations, Ramadan, etc. if your negotiated response requires more than one persons signature and first one is on vacation and then another, the time span lengthens; or vacations plus holidays or Ramadan.
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Post by arbhatti77 on Jan 21, 2014 19:10:12 GMT
Yes, it happened to me also, i asked for a revision and they did came back with a revised offer in two weeks time. But you have to explain why you think the offer needs to be revised.
Regards
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Post by faran.k2 on Jan 27, 2014 6:13:56 GMT
Hi All, I am from Australia... it happened to me also, i got first offer on 6th Jan 2014 by the recruiter on phone(melbourne based) i asked for a revision by email (through recruiter)and they did came back till now with a revised offer. Is it normal? its been 20 days and if they say no the original offer with remains? Also can any one tell me once i sign the offer how long it takes to go Saudia...I am australian citizen. I am very stressed.. please help folks..  |
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Post by arbhatti77 on Jan 28, 2014 19:20:02 GMT
It depends and varies from person to person, i got mixed replies for the same question, but my experience was not that bad. The first revision came quickly in two weeks, but that was still not what i wanted so i asked again and then they took a month or so to come back with the same offer saying that they can not further revise it but the offer still stands if i want to take it ( I did not) But i have seen people posting other experiences also where the offer was with drawn when a revision was asked. Hope it helps  |
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Post by aussie hopeful on Jan 29, 2014 3:26:26 GMT
faran.k2, We are also Australian based in Brisbane. My hubby was interviewed on Dec 4, accepted email offer on Dec 20, Paper work received by agent (bayside professional) on Jan 6. All paperwork is in and we are also waiting. They have his date for leaving on 7 April. My email is tracy.homer8@gmail.com you are welcome to email me to share experiences, you won't be able to respond privately in the forum until you have privileges. Where in Aus are you? Are you traveling on family status and where have they indicated you will live? What role are you looking at? |
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Post by Ahmed9470 on Jan 31, 2014 8:40:33 GMT
o, All
Thanks for your useful information and to those who are still in the process of negotiation, I must tell them that patience is the key.....
I have received a revised offer last week with good appreciation and accepted the offer.
Now the process is submitted to the RA at their London office.
I hope you'll (aussie hopeful) get it soon just give it a few more days or a week or so wait.
All the best
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Post by alter_alberta on Mar 2, 2014 6:24:45 GMT
Good information from all friends on this board.
The negotiation did not worked out to my expectations in my case. I received the offer which was less than my current salary. I told the recruiter in aramco office in Houston about my case. He contacted Aramco and came back with 5% increase couple of times but it was not inline with my expectations, so finally i declined to accept.
I was been told that that was the last and final offer from aramco and they will not raise it any more.
I was very surprised that aramco offered less than what i was making in my current job.
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Post by vpainter on Mar 28, 2014 22:03:06 GMT
If you try to negotiate for Aramco to match your current pay. Do put the request in writing and resubmit your pay stubs with the request.
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Post by alter_alberta on Mar 29, 2014 15:51:46 GMT
Thanks Painter for your kind note. I did sent email reply with the pay stub info but did not write a formal letter assuming recruiter is taking care of communication back to Aramco.
I contacted couple of times since then with the recruiter but he told me that the offer still stands if I agree with the final proposed offer which I am not willing to accept as it is lower than my current situation.
I sent you a PM. I appreciate if you can reply please.
Thanks, A
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Post by Chrismater2000 on Mar 29, 2014 23:07:03 GMT
What do that meaning by matching a salary? If I am $10,000/month here but I am also paying taxes as well. What I heard Aramco can match salary if the offer is lower than current salary. Will they match salary you get after taxes or before taxes. Do they also consider bonus, stock options and investment as well when they match salary. Thanks
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Post by alter_alberta on Apr 3, 2014 12:01:39 GMT
Hi Chrismater2000,
In my mind, the matching will be the salary before tax as we all want to take the benefit of the "tax free" income by relocating to another country.
If the matching after tax is in discussion, i don't see any value or benefit of going to KSA and rather prefer to stay where I am.
I hope that clears your point.
Cheers,
A
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Post by David_and_Nita on Apr 4, 2014 10:19:13 GMT
I am not sure I would just look at salary. In fact we ignore that line. Comparison of estimated discretionary in-kingdom vs. home country usually isn't even close and that is the line that matters.
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Post by JeffSteiner on Apr 4, 2014 15:15:39 GMT
I would tend to agree with David & Nita -- salary is a nice place to start, but you really must factor in much more. No taxes, free medical, ridiculously low rent, no utilities costs, free transportation to and from work, bonus, vacation, repat allowance, travel opportunities, very little or NO SNOW. The list is quite extensive and for this bloke coming from Canada -- which is a pretty decent place to live by the way -- I would have to be paid something like 2.5 or 3 times the Aramco offer to live as comfortably here. As many have stated here in the forum, it is not for everyone, the move to the Kingdom. I have chosen to consider it an adventure, a learning and growing experience, and certainly am learning to slow things down a bit, calm down and enjoy. I believe that if cash and status are all that you are after, disappointment will follow. Mind you, everyone has the right to express an opinion, even it is dares disagree with me! |
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Post by bluebelle on Apr 5, 2014 10:09:24 GMT
JeffSteiner, I had to giggle a bit about the NO SNOW in your comment :lol: (we live in Norway). I think you are absolutely right about moving to the Kingdom is not for everybody. One of my closest friends has lived in the Kingdom twice, as a child and as a teenager, and she told me: 'if you go there just for the money, you are not going to make it'. I do think she is right. Our #1 reason for wanting to go to the Kingdom is how interesting the big projects are for my husband to work on (process eng.). The second reason is: we are both very interested in the Middle East, the cultures, the countries. So to live there and be able to visit and experience those things, is something we look forward to. And the third reason is, well, everything you wrote above, the low rent, free medical, no taxes, etc etc.  |
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