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Post by xjonesy on Jan 17, 2014 19:54:45 GMT
Has anyone on Rakah heard of Americans being moved out to Dhahran due to US tax implications?
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root
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Post by root on Jan 17, 2014 22:16:34 GMT
Do you mean, American nationals living in Rakkah made to move to Dhahran compound due to potential tax implications?
I do not know, but interested to know since I will be joining in third week February.
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revive
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Post by revive on Jan 20, 2014 10:24:17 GMT
xjonesy,
Yes, that's been the talk of the town here in Rakkah.
So far 11 houses in Dhahran have been made available for American payroll who are living in Rakkah. Housing assignment is done through the bidding process, so in this case people with a higher GC will get to move first. We heard many more houses will be made available, and eventually all Americans will be moved to Dhahran. But it's also important to note that there is no official word on this, although it seems more and more real as days go by.
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Post by O&GEngg on Jan 20, 2014 22:39:22 GMT
This could really change the atmosphere of this compound if there are no US employees. I'm not say that this is good or bad; simply stating that it could be quite different going forward (no flames please). If this is confirmed it should be interesting to see if there is any ripple effect with other compounds. Any thoughts on this? Do you guys think that they'll move non-US families from other compounds into Rakah to make room for US families in Aramco owner/operated compounds? Definitely an interesting development!
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root
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Post by root on Jan 22, 2014 16:24:50 GMT
The problem is more practical for the newcomers from USA. They plan their move based on permanently available new furniture in Rakkah, facilities, etc. A few weeks in Rakkah and you are asked to move again to Dhahran. A move with family is always stressful no matter how it is done.
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Post by Ray786 on Jan 24, 2014 7:08:45 GMT
Is this all confirm American no longer given Rakkah compound ?. I assume if that is the case all new comers will get Dharan compound in their offer ? or they still get Rakkah but will move when there is an availability.. How many miles Rakah compound to Dharan main office ?.
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Post by Mopac on Jan 24, 2014 14:36:45 GMT
How would this be for tax implications? I would imagine this would be for other reasons as taxes should be the same?
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Post by xjonesy on Jan 24, 2014 16:12:27 GMT
Re-posted from another thread: “Only U.S. employees are affected because of agreements between governments. U.S. citizens with Aramco must live on company property, because Rakah is leased it was not accepted. Aramco thought it would be ok because they lease it. They were told no. Dhahran is full. What few houses that are in need of renovation will probably be fast tracked (my opinion). Having tile in the houses actually will help with that since carpets are usually (note usually) replaced between residents.
I do not know the timeline for how quickly they are having to move off Rakah. There were only 5 or 6 houses available for many more families. The families were given the list, had so many days to look at the houses and then they bid on them.
Aramco is scrambling so the company does not have to pay 2013 tax penalties for those residents. There is no way to know what they will have to do to meet whatever deadlines they may have.”
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Post by azraeil on Jan 25, 2014 11:42:08 GMT
xjonesy, If Dhahran is full, the only other alternative is Abqaiq Compound.
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Post by Mopac on Jan 26, 2014 3:29:32 GMT
Interesting. I guess RT is also full? I just accepted an offer and would be happy living in Rakah, Dharahan, or RT...Abqaiq was the only place I wasn't thrilled about! Hopefully they won't try to put us there...
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revive
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Post by revive on Jan 26, 2014 4:46:19 GMT
Dhahran is not full. Many houses are vacant, although most are not yet ready for new occupants (e.g. in various state of renovation).
My understanding is the move will be a gradual process based on houses availability. Housing assignment will be handled through the bidding system. As such all newcomers (American payroll on family status) will continue to be placed in Rakkah at the beginning. They will then be added to the bidding list, and assigned bidding points based on their GC and duration of service (the latter is less relevant since everybody in Rakkah is new). So if you have a very high GC (ie. 15 or above), chance is you will be able to move very quickly.
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Post by Mashfamily on Feb 3, 2014 16:33:18 GMT
We will be relocating Late Feb 2014 from the USA. I was told that we will be going to Rakkah. Now reading this post, it sounds like we will be moving around! We wanted to hear from American families who recently (within a month or so) moved to Rakkah, or were supposed to move Rakkah. We wanted to know their experience about the relocation, and the move from Rakkah to Dharharn (if already happened). We originally decided to go with CLE and purchase the stuff we need over there, but If we are to ultimately live in Dhahran then it may make sense to bring our furniture. Thanks in advance
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revive
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Post by revive on Feb 4, 2014 7:13:39 GMT
Go ahead & bring your furniture. The company is supposed to provide movers for you. Even better is if you get to move to DHA before your shipment arrives, which means you will accept your shipment in DHA. But this will depend on house availability and your GC level.
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Post by RickT on Feb 4, 2014 17:10:56 GMT
Thanks MashFamily,
We are in the final stages and at this point are only waiting for the BI Clearance and the Visa Clearance. We are American and have been assigned to Rhakah. Like MashFamily, I would like to hear from others who have just moved Rakah or those who currently live in Rakah but have been given notice that they will be moving to Dharharn.
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Post by Maursh on Feb 9, 2014 11:05:50 GMT
There is a lot of speculation on here. I think that someone has already pointed out that there is no official line on this. To the best of my knowledge no one has been served notice that they will be moving and anyone who has relocated has done so through the usual bidding process.
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